Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 12 Mar 2021, 15:03
Why were they be cheating? We've seen Mercedes do the same last year. Were they cheating?
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Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 12 Mar 2021, 15:07
Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 13 Mar 2021, 05:01
This is the 2nd time Sam Collins has went on about Ferrari have the split turbo design this year itself
Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 14 Mar 2021, 19:39
No split turbo this year
Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 15 Mar 2021, 01:12
Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 19 Mar 2021, 14:41
Is there any comment on the news that the ~40HP is gain against last year engine or against last year performance of the engine? As the rumours that they have been artificially restricted to not run on full power and now they can run the old engine on full power + 40HP it would be nice. But is probably just my wishful thinking 
Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 19 Mar 2021, 16:31
They said the 2019 engine is still stronger (thats how strong it was!) but this one is pretty close to it. A bit behind Mercedes.
Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 19 Mar 2021, 17:19
F1analisitecnica (very very good source) reported >40hp against last years one, which was some 60hp down to 2019 one.
Which is to say this years engine is likely close to Mercs last year one.
Which is to say this years engine is likely close to Mercs last year one.
Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 19 Mar 2021, 23:47
The Ferrari packaging shares some similarities with this obscure PURE prototype from 2013-2014, actually
https://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2012/06/ ... f1-engine/
https://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2012/06/ ... f1-engine/
Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 20 Mar 2021, 07:24
Idk about the engines being artificially restricted, but I did notice that in testing Ferrari almost never changed any power modes. Especially on day 3, where everyone kindof bumped it up a little. I watched a number of verstappen onboards as well as tsunoda onboards (since they were the fastest 2 times). From there, what I noticed was that the two Honda powered teams definitely ran a quali-sim. Ofc, I'm 100% sure they didnt run on full power, but they switched engine modes. You can confirm that by watching their in-laps and the outlaps. As soon as they ended their flying laps, they always switched engine modes.Mr.G wrote: ↑19 Mar 2021, 14:41Is there any comment on the news that the ~40HP is gain against last year engine or against last year performance of the engine? As the rumours that they have been artificially restricted to not run on full power and now they can run the old engine on full power + 40HP it would be nice. But is probably just my wishful thinking
Conversely, with Ferrari, neither Leclerc nor sainz switched between any engine mode before or after the flying lap. They prepped the car same as others before the flying lap but no settings were changed on the engines.
So there is more to come from that Ferrari engine. How much? That we'll have to wait and see.
Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 20 Mar 2021, 07:50
Not necessarily. When was the smoke from? Idle, low loads or low revs? If so then it's probably just oil getting past the piston rings. They will generally run piston rings quite loose to minimise friction. The trade-off is that at low loads they don't seal against the piston walls properly (the combustion chamber pressure forces the ring against the wall giving a better deal) and allow some oil to bypass.
Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 20 Mar 2021, 11:15
There was a speculative comment from the moderators on the F1TV during the last section of test that Ferrari may asked Alfa to test the higher power modes for them. Kimi would be good candidate for that...ryaan2904 wrote: ↑20 Mar 2021, 07:24Idk about the engines being artificially restricted, but I did notice that in testing Ferrari almost never changed any power modes. Especially on day 3, where everyone kindof bumped it up a little. I watched a number of verstappen onboards as well as tsunoda onboards (since they were the fastest 2 times). From there, what I noticed was that the two Honda powered teams definitely ran a quali-sim. Ofc, I'm 100% sure they didnt run on full power, but they switched engine modes. You can confirm that by watching their in-laps and the outlaps. As soon as they ended their flying laps, they always switched engine modes.Mr.G wrote: ↑19 Mar 2021, 14:41Is there any comment on the news that the ~40HP is gain against last year engine or against last year performance of the engine? As the rumours that they have been artificially restricted to not run on full power and now they can run the old engine on full power + 40HP it would be nice. But is probably just my wishful thinking
Conversely, with Ferrari, neither Leclerc nor sainz switched between any engine mode before or after the flying lap. They prepped the car same as others before the flying lap but no settings were changed on the engines.
So there is more to come from that Ferrari engine. How much? That we'll have to wait and see.
Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 20 Mar 2021, 12:47
There is a high chance for that being the case. I can't confirm it since they cut kimi's dash view before the last few corners as he set his fastest time, but I can confirm that Ferrari were definitely not running anything close to a quali mode.Mr.G wrote: ↑20 Mar 2021, 11:15There was a speculative comment from the moderators on the F1TV during the last section of test that Ferrari may asked Alfa to test the higher power modes for them. Kimi would be good candidate for that...ryaan2904 wrote: ↑20 Mar 2021, 07:24Idk about the engines being artificially restricted, but I did notice that in testing Ferrari almost never changed any power modes. Especially on day 3, where everyone kindof bumped it up a little. I watched a number of verstappen onboards as well as tsunoda onboards (since they were the fastest 2 times). From there, what I noticed was that the two Honda powered teams definitely ran a quali-sim. Ofc, I'm 100% sure they didnt run on full power, but they switched engine modes. You can confirm that by watching their in-laps and the outlaps. As soon as they ended their flying laps, they always switched engine modes.Mr.G wrote: ↑19 Mar 2021, 14:41Is there any comment on the news that the ~40HP is gain against last year engine or against last year performance of the engine? As the rumours that they have been artificially restricted to not run on full power and now they can run the old engine on full power + 40HP it would be nice. But is probably just my wishful thinking
Conversely, with Ferrari, neither Leclerc nor sainz switched between any engine mode before or after the flying lap. They prepped the car same as others before the flying lap but no settings were changed on the engines.
So there is more to come from that Ferrari engine. How much? That we'll have to wait and see.
I went through the day 3 highlights again, specifically the evening ones. (You can also find some unofficial "testing highlights" on yt as well if u want). So on Sainz's flying lap, you can notice that he has exactly 16% battery power remaining as soon as he touches the finish line. And this is his fastest lap of the session (3rd fastest overall).
Meanwhile, both Tsunoda and Verstappen hit 0 at the finish line on their respective fastest times. (betn 0-1 since they switch to some recharge mode as soon as they touch the finish)
You can confirm all this on yt.
Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 20 Mar 2021, 12:50
Ferrari's battery % is at the bottom left of the dash, just above their horizontal battery bar.
AT has a vertical battery bar, while the battery % is at the middle right of the bar.
RBR dont display their battery % but they have the same styled vertical battery bar at the left of the screen.
AT has a vertical battery bar, while the battery % is at the middle right of the bar.
RBR dont display their battery % but they have the same styled vertical battery bar at the left of the screen.
Re: Ferrari Power Unit Hardware & Software
Posted: 20 Mar 2021, 14:14
If that's your hope than you'll probably be disappointed. Those battery bars don't mean much in testing. Energy recovery intensity could be set to anything, high low medium.. who knows. Verstappen's top speed on his best lap in testing was 10 kmh less than on his Q3 lap last year.ryaan2904 wrote: ↑20 Mar 2021, 12:50Ferrari's battery % is at the bottom left of the dash, just above their horizontal battery bar.
AT has a vertical battery bar, while the battery % is at the middle right of the bar.
RBR dont display their battery % but they have the same styled vertical battery bar at the left of the screen.