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Re: Honda Power Unit

Posted: 25 Feb 2017, 15:52
by ALO_Power
This season is definitely going to be really interesting for everyone. Let's see if we will start seeing the fruits of all of this work. But ye, even if in Australia the P.U makes as much power as last spec 2016 Merc PU it will be awesome since they expect a lot of potential to come after this. In Monday we will see a lot stuff.

Re: Honda Power Unit

Posted: 25 Feb 2017, 16:24
by fellowhoodlums
bigblue wrote:Three minute interview with Mr. Hasegawa - nothing earth shattering, but mentions the engine is lighter with a lower centre of gravity than last year's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytvSpaheaBY

https://youtu.be/ytvSpaheaBY
Lighter, lower centre of gravity, Merc end of 2016 power level......i'd take that. Just the chassis left...........

Re: Honda Power Unit

Posted: 25 Feb 2017, 17:32
by PlatinumZealot
dren wrote:I will be utterly impressed if the PU is at the 2016 Mercedes level by season start.
THIS!!

Re: Honda Power Unit

Posted: 25 Feb 2017, 17:33
by PlatinumZealot
PlatinumZealot wrote:
dren wrote:I will be utterly impressed if the PU is at the 2016 Mercedes level by season start.
THIS!!
Limited returns people, limited returns....

Re: Honda Power Unit

Posted: 25 Feb 2017, 17:51
by damager21
While Hasegawa-san mentioned the possibility of Honda engine being on par with 2016 Mercedes engine (at Abu Dhabi) by start of 2017 season, I wonder if it will be Australia.

I think reliability will be a key factor which will decide the timing of any new parts. If the 2 tests go well then we could see more power at Australia else it could be after 5 races.

If McLaren Honda can be within a sec of Mercedes at Australia, I think that will be another big leap this winter and will bode well for rest of the season.

Re: Honda Power Unit

Posted: 25 Feb 2017, 22:27
by godlameroso
bigblue wrote:Three minute interview with Mr. Hasegawa - nothing earth shattering, but mentions the engine is lighter with a lower centre of gravity than last year's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytvSpaheaBY

https://youtu.be/ytvSpaheaBY
Looking at his micro expressions when he talks about progress, he seems quietly confident, at the same time realistic. He's happy that the engine has potential, but he's still tentative on the power unit integration with the chassis, and what that means for relative performance. A big departure, from the clear lack of confidence from Arai-San's interviews.

This alone puts my mind at ease. If they don't set good times the first week, I won't bat an eye, I'll be keeping an eye on the long runs.

Look at the edge of his lips, when he talks, when you're unsure, your cheek muscles become limp and affect the outer edges of your lips. His were tense as if trying to hide a little pride.

Re: Honda Power Unit

Posted: 25 Feb 2017, 22:35
by GoranF1
godlameroso wrote:
bigblue wrote:Three minute interview with Mr. Hasegawa - nothing earth shattering, but mentions the engine is lighter with a lower centre of gravity than last year's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytvSpaheaBY

https://youtu.be/ytvSpaheaBY
Looking at his micro expressions when he talks about progress, he seems quietly confident, at the same time realistic. He's happy that the engine has potential, but he's still tentative on the power unit integration with the chassis, and what that means for relative performance. A big departure, from the clear lack of confidence from Arai-San's interviews.

This alone puts my mind at ease. If they don't set good times the first week, I won't bat an eye, I'll be keeping an eye on the long runs.

Look at the edge of his lips, when he talks, when you're unsure, your cheek muscles become limp and affect the outer edges of your lips. His were tense as if trying to hide a little pride.
I love you mate!!! :D

Re: Honda Power Unit

Posted: 26 Feb 2017, 10:56
by fellowhoodlums
She's out on track for filming day!

I was worried that McLaren wasn't doing a shake down before testing.

So many changes needs as much running as you can so a morning of work will be invaluable.

Re: Honda Power Unit

Posted: 26 Feb 2017, 11:41
by taperoo2k
Alonso at the wheel for a filming day. PU sounds different, I'm sure others will have more interesting things to say about it.
https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/835778689346457601

Re: Honda Power Unit

Posted: 26 Feb 2017, 11:59
by tom101
The sound is awesome!

Re: Honda Power Unit

Posted: 26 Feb 2017, 12:06
by hurril
Honda has the best sound to me. Sounds like they've "added" a more Ferrariesque turbo wine.

Re: Honda Power Unit

Posted: 26 Feb 2017, 12:23
by McL-H
damager21 wrote:While Hasegawa-san mentioned the possibility of Honda engine being on par with 2016 Mercedes engine (at Abu Dhabi) by start of 2017 season, I wonder if it will be Australia.

I think reliability will be a key factor which will decide the timing of any new parts. If the 2 tests go well then we could see more power at Australia else it could be after 5 races.

If McLaren Honda can be within a sec of Mercedes at Australia, I think that will be another big leap this winter and will bode well for rest of the season.
I agree, being only 1 second off, of Mercedes will be a huge step forwards. Differences in Australia won't say that much though. The track can't be compared to any other GP on the calendar. The past has shown this. Bahrain should be a better track to see where everyone stands.

Re: Honda Power Unit

Posted: 26 Feb 2017, 12:27
by Craigy
hurril wrote:Honda has the best sound to me. Sounds like they've "added" a more Ferrariesque turbo wine.
On that audio the compressor noise sounds like it's spinning down more slowly than the old engine.
The H might be driving it, or it might have quite a bit of rotational inertia, impossible to tell.
It does sound different.

Re: Honda Power Unit

Posted: 26 Feb 2017, 12:46
by ALO_Power
Different and really awesome sound. Sounds strong and healthy :mrgreen: ! Let's see what happens !

Re: Honda Power Unit

Posted: 26 Feb 2017, 12:58
by OviJohn
To our delight, more PU sounds and footage to digest here:

https://twitter.com/motorygascom