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Re: Steering Wheels 2013

Posted: 03 Jun 2013, 23:33
by Taqtix27
that's awesome.. where did you find those comparison pictures if I may ask?

Re: Steering Wheels 2013

Posted: 04 Jun 2013, 06:51
by Blackout
It's written here (youtube and Auto Motor und Sport)
and in the pics (Giorgio Piloa animation)

Re: Mercedes AMG F1 W04

Posted: 04 Jun 2013, 06:58
by flynfrog
marcush. wrote:especially the purple dial is very readible...

the dials showing only the chosen parameter have a drawback in my view as you cannot see the target position wwith this approach .But then the window is moving anyways so it has no real advantage in my view ...the Hmilton approach would make entire sense if the numbers would appear in a fixed position window so you always focus on the same spot to check the setting.
I think they would be much better off doing it entirely different: One dial to preselect the parameter to change and maybe a paddle to adjust the setting and showing the change of settings in the display.
odds are at this point the drivers will be turning by feel rather than a dial more hapticrather than pure visual
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haptic_technology

edit tactile is probably a better description

Re: Steering Wheels 2013

Posted: 04 Jun 2013, 07:22
by Cam
ESPImperium wrote:For 2014 id expect to see some major changes on the wheels for the new engine formula.
Anyone have any ideas what key buttons/dials etc will need to be removed/added for the new regs? Any guesses?

Great post too BTW @ESPImperium.

Re: Steering Wheels 2013

Posted: 04 Jun 2013, 07:30
by flynfrog
Lycoming wrote:Anybody know what the grips are made of? BMW Sauber wheels in particular look to be custom moulded, but are the rest just modeled in CAD, then fabricated out of some plastic/rubber then wrapped in felt?
probably something like this

https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group ... =UGLIGRIPZ

Re: Steering Wheels 2013

Posted: 04 Jun 2013, 18:10
by timbo

Re: Steering Wheels 2013

Posted: 04 Jun 2013, 21:53
by ESPImperium
Cam wrote:
ESPImperium wrote:For 2014 id expect to see some major changes on the wheels for the new engine formula.
Anyone have any ideas what key buttons/dials etc will need to be removed/added for the new regs? Any guesses?

Great post too BTW @ESPImperium.
I understand that the KERS REC (KERS Recovery) dial will go, the KERS button will go as well,

What will stay:

Diff Roarties - 3 (Entry, Mid & Exit)
Fuel Rotary - 1
Multi/Default - 1
Engine Torque/Turbo Boost mode - 1
Tyre Rotary - 1
ERS Mode - 1

About 18 buttons will also stay. Hamilton and the McLarens will stay minimal i think.

I see most staying the same, but they could change as im not sure if any will disappear as im sure the teams will be able to think of something in order to put in that one that KERS REC was doing in order to control something else.

Drivers may have a lot more to do in the car next year. We will see in January when the new steering wheels come into use.

Re: Steering Wheels 2013

Posted: 06 Jun 2013, 17:56
by Taqtix27
would they maybe have a boost controller for the turbo on the new steering wheel?

Re: Steering Wheels 2013

Posted: 06 Jun 2013, 20:31
by flynfrog
Taqtix27 wrote:would they maybe have a boost controller for the turbo on the new steering wheel?
they will most likely use the engine ecu to control boost levels

edit you may be talking about a knob to control the boost possible or it could be tied in with the engine map.

Re: Steering Wheels 2013

Posted: 10 Jun 2013, 19:02
by Forza
Sauber F1 Team wrote:Following are the controls most used by the drivers during a race:
➡ Shifting levers
➡ KERS boost
➡ DRS
➡ RPM / Fuel / Pedal
➡ Radio (R)

Some additional information:
➡ Average number of shifting events per race (all races): 2’750
➡ Grand Prix with the highest number of shifting events per lap and per race: Singapore (70 per lap, approx. 4’270 in total)
➡ Grand Prix with the least shifting events per race: Belgium (1’980 in total; 44 per lap)
➡ Grand Prix with the least shifting events per lap: Brazil (36 per lap, 2’556 in total)

➡ Average KERS boost button usage: 4x per lap, >220x per race
➡ Average use of team radio: <1x per lap, >30x per race

And, as a special service to our fans, here is a link to download a high-res PDF of this infographic (A3 / 4.2 MB): http://tinyurl.com/PDFdownload-E
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Re: Steering Wheels 2013

Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 13:00
by ESPImperium
And a present day Le Mans Toyota TS030 wheel for comparison:

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And last years TS030 cockpit:

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and a present day Audi R18 e-Tron Quattro wheel and cockpit:

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Last years car (Note 3 LCD screens for rear and side views:

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Normal R18 layout:

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Delta Wings wheel:

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Re: Steering Wheels 2013

Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 14:37
by ESPImperium
Williams Driver Differences:

#BOTTAS (New clean 2013 layout):

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Maldanado 2012 (Same layout this year and previous 2 years):

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Up To Date STR8 wheel:

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Another wheel that hasnt changed much since 2010, however 2010 saw both drivers have different colourd hand grips, BUE red and ALG with blue for half a season then ALG changed to red.

Re: Steering Wheels 2013

Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 20:18
by ESPImperium
One more post:

Dallara DW12 steering wheel as used in Indy Car:

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Re: Steering Wheels 2013

Posted: 13 Jun 2013, 21:19
by raymondu999
ESPImperium wrote:One more post:

Dallara DW12 steering wheel as used in Indy Car:

http://p.twimg.com/AqIoG-VCIAAmzPc.jpg:large
IndyCars as I understand it have no power steering? I wonder if that's why the grip is so much bulkier

Re: Steering Wheels 2013

Posted: 14 Jun 2013, 00:17
by Paul
I really like the recessed design of neutral and limiter buttons on the Williams wheel, that should make the driver less concerned about accidentally engaging them.

Are those Indy grips custom moulded for the driver? Grips on most wheels look pretty generic...