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Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 13 Dec 2013, 15:24
by scarbs
theWPTformula wrote: http://thewptformula.files.wordpress.co ... alysis.jpg
What are your thoughts?
This hooked chassis will be a common approach and is visible on the caterham crash test video at 1m 06s. http://youtu.be/QhTObVI2C8M

Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 13 Dec 2013, 15:29
by bonjon1979
scarbs wrote:
theWPTformula wrote: http://thewptformula.files.wordpress.co ... alysis.jpg
What are your thoughts?
This hooked chassis will be a common approach and is visible on the caterham crash test video at 1m 06s. http://youtu.be/QhTObVI2C8M
all I see is metal poles at that time?

Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 13 Dec 2013, 15:33
by scarbs
look to the left....

Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 13 Dec 2013, 15:43
by atanatizante
scarbs wrote:Perhaps you mean a narrow nose with "r" shaped front wing pillars spaced from it acting as turning vanes?
That`s another interesting idea !
But in my case it`s just a curvy nose on the sides and the trajectory of the airflow on both sides in pointed underneath the nose ...
As you just figure out I`m not an aero guy and regarding this design it stroked my mind seeing a bulky front of a large oil tank ship, maybe acting like a T-tray splitter ...
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Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 13 Dec 2013, 15:57
by techF1LES
2014 Caterham nose cone sneak peek... looks like Blanchimont/finger design...

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Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 13 Dec 2013, 16:09
by Sevach
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This looks extremely cool though farfetched.

On twitter Scarbs also has a nose proposition based on the old Mclaren snow plough.

Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 13 Dec 2013, 16:42
by Huntresa
Sevach wrote:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbXrzcmCMAAGH-t.jpg:large

This looks extremely cool though farfetched.

On twitter Scarbs also has a nose proposition based on the old Mclaren snow plough.
That scarbs snowplough isnt farfetched tho, actually its a rly good idea.

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he also just posted what he thinks caterham looks like

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Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 13 Dec 2013, 16:43
by Huntresa
Sevach wrote:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbXrzcmCMAAGH-t.jpg:large

This looks extremely cool though farfetched.

On twitter Scarbs also has a nose proposition based on the old Mclaren snow plough.
Btw look at the front wing on that car, is that a legal solution to have endplate and then kinda a 2nd endplate on the inside with the holes diverting air inwash ? I guess the point is you move the entire inwash effect much closer to the inside of the tyre and therfor get a better effect from it, or rather an actual working inwash.

Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 13 Dec 2013, 16:48
by Schifty
Huntresa wrote:
Sevach wrote:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbXrzcmCMAAGH-t.jpg:large

This looks extremely cool though farfetched.

On twitter Scarbs also has a nose proposition based on the old Mclaren snow plough.
That scarbs snowplough isnt farfetched tho, actually its a rly good idea.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbXZSzGCIAApH3r.jpg:large

he also just posted what he thinks caterham looks like

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbX2gHECYAAmzeQ.jpg:large
Not sur the first nose design can be allowed, yeah a part of the nose is lower but i think a maximum of height to respect also.

Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 13 Dec 2013, 16:50
by scarbs
oops! please delete..

Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 13 Dec 2013, 17:00
by Giando
Sevach wrote:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbXrzcmCMAAGH-t.jpg:large

This looks extremely cool though farfetched.

On twitter Scarbs also has a nose proposition based on the old Mclaren snow plough.


Nice one, who's the author?

Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 13 Dec 2013, 18:23
by LookBackTime
ScarbsF1's latest draw (Thank you!):

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He's comments too:

"...and here's what lies under the new @MyCaterhamF1 finger nose; slim crash structure, vanity panel & hooked chassis "
" it creates the slimmest nose tip, funnels more flow under the chassis for more downforce"

Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 13 Dec 2013, 18:26
by astracrazy
Schifty wrote: Not sur the first nose design can be allowed, yeah a part of the nose is lower but i think a maximum of height to respect also.
i don't see why not?

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apart from the diagonal line rule which it would break

Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 13 Dec 2013, 18:46
by scarbs
The diagonal line rule only applies to the crash structure, the vanity panel above is exempt. granted the top edge of the crash structure probably could be straighter than drawn, but the concept is all there.

Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 13 Dec 2013, 18:50
by variante
Here some numbers from two CFD runs with good accuracy:

Blanchimont nose: -12% downforce on the front axle, +13% on the rear compared to the same car in the same testing conditions fitted with my "Variante nose" (...call it as you wish).

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A lot of refinement can be done on my models (which are far from the actual F1 cars), but it looks like the rear end lacks downforce this year, while the front has got plenty of it. I'll go for the Blanchimont nose for sure.