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Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 08:09
by FW17
Will we see a return to more elaborate displays on the steering wheel with the addition of turbo, kers and fuel management?

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To compare with

Formula E steering wheel
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Audi R15
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R18
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Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 09:37
by siskue2005
ringo wrote:Image

What rule is that 900mm2 area referring to?

It can't be what i quoted from the regs, as it would not be over 135mm and be 9000 not 900.
I myself have been confused, but i now see why i read it incorrectly.

What the rule also does is limit the length of the nose. The nose tip can be no further than 800mm from front wheel center line.

part b is referring to the centroid.
How about this?
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Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 10:03
by Lycoming
WilliamsF1 wrote:Will we see a return to more elaborate displays on the steering wheel with the addition of turbo, kers and fuel management?
I believe not, the current display is practically a part of the SECU. Besides, all the driver needs to know is when to shift, what gear he's in, whether he's up or down on his previous lap (in qualifying), and how much KERS he has left. All of that can be done on the current display. Everything else is pure fluff. The driver doesn't need to know things like oil pressure, turbo boost pressure, speed, etc.

Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 10:21
by FW17
siskue2005 wrote:
ringo wrote:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYZB6VlCAAEL6oK.jpg:large

What rule is that 900mm2 area referring to?

It can't be what i quoted from the regs, as it would not be over 135mm and be 9000 not 900.
I myself have been confused, but i now see why i read it incorrectly.

What the rule also does is limit the length of the nose. The nose tip can be no further than 800mm from front wheel center line.

part b is referring to the centroid.
How about this?
Image
Image

Reminds me of the sketch which i drew some time back
WilliamsF1 wrote:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZmspvyCIAAtT5g.png

Since vanity panels are allowed and scarbs illustration is also allowed, what is stopping the nose cone from looking like this?
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Light green vanity panel
Dark green splitter
WilliamsF1 wrote:The image sketched is not very clear but it was supposed to have the idea of this

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Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 10:44
by siskue2005
Nice +1 =D>

Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 12:37
by scarbs
Can any one tell me what that bulbous detail is called on the front of the boat? or perhaps explain its function?

2014 Design

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 12:41
by djos
A bulbous bow is a protruding bulb at the bow (or front) of a ship just below the waterline. The bulb modifies the way the water flows around the hull, reducing drag and thus increasing speed, range, fuel efficiency, and stability. Large ships with bulbous bows generally have a twelve to fifteen percent better fuel efficiency than similar vessels without them.[1] A bulbous bow also increases the buoyancy of the forward part and hence reduces the pitching of the ship to a small degree.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulbous_bow

In a conventionally shaped bow, a bow wave forms immediately before the bow. When a bulb is placed below the water ahead of this wave, water is forced to flow up over the bulb. If the trough formed by water flowing off the bulb coincides with the bow wave, the two partially cancel out and reduce the vessel's wake. While inducing another wave stream saps energy from the ship, canceling out the second wave stream at the bow changes the pressure distribution along the hull, thereby reducing wave resistance. The effect that pressure distribution has on a surface is known as the form effect.

Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 12:45
by AnthonyG
scarbs wrote:Can any one tell me what that bulbous detail is called on the front of the boat? or perhaps explain its function?
Here you go.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulbous_bow

Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 12:46
by djos
AnthonyG wrote:
scarbs wrote:Can any one tell me what that bulbous detail is called on the front of the boat? or perhaps explain its function?
Here you go.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulbous_bow
Bit slow! ;)

Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 12:56
by AnthonyG
djos wrote:
AnthonyG wrote:
scarbs wrote:Can any one tell me what that bulbous detail is called on the front of the boat? or perhaps explain its function?
Here you go.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulbous_bow
Bit slow! ;)
Yeah, I first typed something about tuning the frenquency of waves etc, but then changed my mind because I wasn't 100% sure. :mrgreen:

Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 17:59
by Joie de vivre
omg what has FIA done #-o

Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 18:07
by gobjb
SectorOne wrote:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYZB6VlCAAEL6oK.jpg:large

Now this one is ugly.
Also illegal as such since you need to have two pylons connecting the nose to the front wing according to rule 3.7.2.

Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 18:33
by siskue2005
gobjb wrote:
SectorOne wrote:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BYZB6VlCAAEL6oK.jpg:large

Now this one is ugly.
Also illegal as such since you need to have two pylons connecting the nose to the front wing according to rule 3.7.2.
Does the rule say how wide the pylons should be ?
If not they can put a small slit in the single pylon and claim it as two pieces

Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 20:17
by theWPTformula
siskue2005 wrote: Does the rule say how wide the pylons should be ?
If not they can put a small slit in the single pylon and claim it as two pieces
Yes, article 3.7.2 in the regulations. Must be no greater than 25mm wide and maximum area of 5000mm^2 in total.

Re: 2014 Design

Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 20:23
by FW17
theWPTformula wrote:
Yes, article 3.7.2 in the regulations. Must be no greater than 25mm wide and maximum area of 5000mm^2 in total.

Makes no sense, i guess you have the wrong article