Re: Honda Power Unit
Posted: 26 Jul 2017, 21:59
Honda urea grease is awesome, makes their release bearings easily last 160,000kms.
As far as it knew honda mguh is produced in house with consultant help. IHI obligated to package it within their turbocharger. Why not buying it from bosch instead.. Just wondering
Nippon pride?
May be just IHI is better? why do you think something is chosen because of pride in F1? and bying ? its not like bying as these components are not produced as standartized pieces... they ar emostly custom made in small quantities specially for this motor. I wouldn call this kind of collaboration a bying.
IHI were originally involved with Mercedes-Benz. On a commercial level, IHI and Daimler are not unfriendly - they had a joint venture until 2013 (which IHI ended up buying MB out of).kasio wrote: ↑27 Jul 2017, 09:56May be just IHI is better? why do you think something is chosen because of pride in F1? and bying ? its not like bying as these components are not produced as standartized pieces... they ar emostly custom made in small quantities specially for this motor. I wouldn call this kind of collaboration a bying.
Outsourcing you mentioned is the thing of the past, most of F1 engine makers is doing as much as they can in house. The only known to me exception is Ferrari, MGU-H/-K and related electronics are sourced outside. However contract includes exclusivity, nobody else can get them.
You would imagine Ilmor stands a good chance, being in a position of privilege with intimate knowledge of Renault's PU and combustion system from consultancy work in 2014/2015 and now Honda's.?etusch wrote: ↑26 Jul 2017, 15:49Current contenders know what kind of hardness wait for new manufacturers. I think only pressure on honda is catching merc ferrari and if Honda can do this by saving low cog lighter pu they are goodfellowhoodlums wrote: ↑26 Jul 2017, 13:39Aston Martin, Ilmor.......all looking at 2021, can only mean more teams surely.
Honda....pressure is on.
Ilmor == HPP initially, so not only Renault but MB-AMG too. Super unique position wrt the new formula(s)R_GoWin wrote: ↑27 Jul 2017, 13:46You would imagine Ilmor stands a good chance, being in a position of privilege with intimate knowledge of Renault's PU and combustion system from consultancy work in 2014/2015 and now Honda's.?etusch wrote: ↑26 Jul 2017, 15:49Current contenders know what kind of hardness wait for new manufacturers. I think only pressure on honda is catching merc ferrari and if Honda can do this by saving low cog lighter pu they are goodfellowhoodlums wrote: ↑26 Jul 2017, 13:39Aston Martin, Ilmor.......all looking at 2021, can only mean more teams surely.
Honda....pressure is on.
If it is just about of combustion and if manufacturers didn't put on what they had learnt from ilmor...R_GoWin wrote: ↑27 Jul 2017, 13:46You would imagine Ilmor stands a good chance, being in a position of privilege with intimate knowledge of Renault's PU and combustion system from consultancy work in 2014/2015 and now Honda's.?etusch wrote: ↑26 Jul 2017, 15:49Current contenders know what kind of hardness wait for new manufacturers. I think only pressure on honda is catching merc ferrari and if Honda can do this by saving low cog lighter pu they are goodfellowhoodlums wrote: ↑26 Jul 2017, 13:39Aston Martin, Ilmor.......all looking at 2021, can only mean more teams surely.
Honda....pressure is on.
I think the FIA might class depleted Uranium as an exotic material.....PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑26 Jul 2017, 20:25They need more osmium in the bearings. A tinge of depleted uranium helps too.
5.17.7 Reciprocating and rotating components :taperoo2k wrote: ↑27 Jul 2017, 15:18I think the FIA might class depleted Uranium as an exotic material.....PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑26 Jul 2017, 20:25They need more osmium in the bearings. A tinge of depleted uranium helps too.
Honda's level of investment - both in terms of finances and resource - backs that claim.
"We can't give you actual numbers, but we have three times as many people now in Sakura compared to the start of the project," adds Yamamoto. "Milton Keynes is also future-proofed. We moved into new facilities, which can house a second team, last year.
"As part of our long-term recruitment, we're continuing to invest in Sakura, hiring new people and drafting in people from other departments, including from mass production.
"We know as a company how much we've invested into this era of Formula 1. We can see our investment in our members of staff and facilities we have grown and developed as well.
"We are having huge investment in our facilities and in people as well. Once it comes altogether, it's going to work. That's our belief."