Well, all I can say is that it was posted on this forum as a picture from China which showed that part sitting outside the garage. I presume it was from 2012, but you'd have to ask whoever posted it.tpe wrote:Are we 1000000% sure that this photo was from 2012? I mean, it it nonsense to bring to fly away race a part and then you just expose it and not even test it...f1316 wrote:Development of that obviously points to Ferrari's radiator layout (as Gary Anderson mentions in his BBC article) and that reminds me of the engine cover part they brought to China (was it?) with the central cooling behind the driver. I'm still fascinated by the fact that that part made it to the track but not onto the track.
No. The traction has actually improved as Alonso was able to closing in in early part of the final stint. He only lost ground to the Williams at the later part when he ran out of rubber as he was on used prime compared to Maldonado who was on new prime.reichsmarshal24 wrote:After qualifying, a lot of people were praising the improved traction of the F2012 based on its sector 3 times. However, I observed during the race that the Ferrari lost ground to the Williams on the final chicane which prevented him from overtaking on the straight with the DRS.
Is this still a rear downforce issue or more on the suspension side?
More likely that Alonso was trying to protect the rear tyres or they were already degrading. Towards the end of the stint he was starting to burn through the rears which is why he ended up dropping back from Maldonado.reichsmarshal24 wrote:After qualifying, a lot of people were praising the improved traction of the F2012 based on its sector 3 times. However, I observed during the race that the Ferrari lost ground to the Williams on the final chicane which prevented him from overtaking on the straight with the DRS.
Is this still a rear downforce issue or more on the suspension side?
I think you're right crucial, i read they've changed the radiators layout on mugello, how much they changed it i don't know.Crucial_Xtreme wrote:Maybe so. I also think maybe the radiators were moved ever so slightly. See pics below. I know they're different angles, but things are different.
Edit: Switched pictures & it looks like I'm wrong. Sorry.
Except quick the release wheel nuts, and the pneumatic bit for it. :-"Neno wrote:seen last season on red bulls, if anyone copy someone that is ferrari. ofcourse, i dont say that is bad, but most of top team, last few years dont want copy nothing from ferrari! why, you see results and performances with their budget.alogoc wrote:is this aditional flap on diffusor something others will now copy and is it allowed to put even more of them?
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thats about right! they said from the beginning of the year that their problems were aero related...thats what they focused on and the car really improved! we can expect a good result as monaco as the car showed that it had good mechanical grip in montmelo...in the last sector which is mostly mechanical it was putting in really good times!!alogoc wrote:Ferrari has aerod.traction problems not mechanical right?
But that's the rear, front is a completely different story, right Z?amouzouris wrote:thats about right! they said from the beginning of the year that their problems were aero related...thats what they focused on and the car really improved! we can expect a good result as monaco as the car showed that it had good mechanical grip in montmelo...in the last sector which is mostly mechanical it was putting in really good times!!alogoc wrote:Ferrari has aerod.traction problems not mechanical right?
we'll see in about a week X!!xpensive wrote:But that's the rear, front is a completely different story, right Z?amouzouris wrote:thats about right! they said from the beginning of the year that their problems were aero related...thats what they focused on and the car really improved! we can expect a good result as monaco as the car showed that it had good mechanical grip in montmelo...in the last sector which is mostly mechanical it was putting in really good times!!alogoc wrote:Ferrari has aerod.traction problems not mechanical right?