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Can-Am Odyssey
Posted: 29 Jun 2012, 05:44
by strad
Can-Am started out as a race series for Group 7 sports racers with two races in Canada (Can) and four races in the United States of America (Am). The series was initially sponsored by Johnson Wax. The Series was governed by rules called out under the FIA Group 7 category with unrestricted engine capacity and few other technical restrictions.
The Group 7 category was essentially a formule libre for sports cars; the regulations were minimal and permitted unlimited engine sizes (and allowed turbocharging and supercharging), virtually unrestricted aerodynamics, and were as close as any major international racing series ever got to anything goes. As long as the car had two seats and bodywork enclosing the wheels, and met basic safety standards, it was legal.
"Racing runs by rules sometimes so restrictive that it's sometimes hard to tell where the book ends and the sport begins. Can-Am racing is a relief from the iron band of the rule book."
— Mark Donohue
Can-Am Odyssey..
1hr29.5min 941Mb WMV

Re: Can-Am Odyssey
Posted: 29 Jun 2012, 06:41
by flynfrog
I heart you =D>
Re: Can-Am Odyssey
Posted: 29 Jun 2012, 07:34
by Tommy Cookers
YES !!! YES !!! YES !!!
Technically, though, Can-Am really gave us the turbo breakthrough
before the Porsche turbocharged the 917 for Can-Am, turbos worked only at Indy etc
what Porsche did (to keep the turbo speed up off-throttle) was a GAME CHANGER
(and there was a 6+ litre flat 16 aircooled in reserve, making 1200+ bhp)
the N/A canted valve V8 pushrod ohv still shows its value in Nascar or whatever they call it now
EDIT Note to self ....... NASCAR motors must have parallel valves ?
Re: Can-Am Odyssey
Posted: 30 Jun 2012, 12:40
by strad
I'm guessing if you liked that, you might also be interested in this extra from Another Can-Am video,Can_Am Thunder, in which Peter Bryant and Pete Lyons reminisce and share some Can-Am memories..
39Min...657Mb mpg

Re: Can-Am Odyssey
Posted: 30 Jun 2012, 13:08
by jdlive
Very nice, thank you!
How fast did these cars do the 0-100 kph, top speed, lap comparison to current F1's?
Keep sharing!
Re: Can-Am Odyssey
Posted: 30 Jun 2012, 13:41
by strad
In their heyday they were faster than their F1 counterparts, I'm sure a modern F1 car would eat their lunch.
Re: Can-Am Odyssey
Posted: 30 Jun 2012, 14:00
by marcush.
I had the pleasure to work on one of those a few years ago...
http://www.martini-racing.com/de/mclaren.html
The rollout of the car on a proving ground skidpad was just dropped my jar ..especially when you looked into the eyes of the driver who really asked himself how he could possibly survive this...it tokk him considerable time to start enjoying it..
The race in Monza was a hard lesson for him ...the thing is brutal .
Re: Can-Am Odyssey
Posted: 30 Jun 2012, 14:17
by xpensive
With 750+ Hp in the early 70s, before the turbos, an F1 car had about 450. The only match in a straight line was the USAC.
At Watkins Glen in 1970, Jacky Ickx was on the F1 pole with a 1.03.07, while Denny Hulme did a 1.02.76 in Can-Am.
Same track but xtended in 1973, Ronnie took the F1 pole with a 1.39.657, but Donohue did 1.38.848 with the 917-30.
Re: Can-Am Odyssey
Posted: 30 Jun 2012, 21:38
by Sombrero
Thank you very much strad.
"Maybe, like shining Camelot and Woodstock, the Can-Am could only have happened when it did." — Pete Lyons
USRRC, Can-Am, EHCC or Interserie it's always worth watching Gr.7 racecars. Nice to listen to Peter Bryant explaining how the Can-Am cars evolved from low downforce racecars to high downforce racecars.
A link where Denny Hulme talks about McLaren's M8 Accidental Downforce
http://insideracingtechnology.com/tech109mclaren.htm
Re: Can-Am Odyssey
Posted: 30 Jun 2012, 22:02
by strad
Interesting...Thank You.
I could put up Can-Am Thunder..Same subject different style...it's like a gig after running it thru Divx and an hour and fourty eight minutes...any takers?
Re: Can-Am Odyssey
Posted: 01 Jul 2012, 22:32
by Scorpaguy
Truly the golden age of racing =D>
Thank you for posting Strad.
Re: Can-Am Odyssey
Posted: 01 Jul 2012, 23:09
by strad
You are all very welcome...I love to share.
Re: Can-Am Odyssey
Posted: 02 Jul 2012, 07:54
by xpensive
I belong to the happy ones with this original hardcover, seems difficult to come by nowadays, strongly recommended however.
http://www.amazon.com/Can-Am-Peter-Lyons/dp/0760300178
Re: Can-Am Odyssey
Posted: 02 Jul 2012, 09:17
by strad
The cat was there for all of it and lots of others series too..lotta insight.
Re: Can-Am Odyssey
Posted: 02 Jul 2012, 13:47
by xpensive
I seem to remember that Lyons missed the very first race, at St. Jovite in 1966, but witnessed all the rest?