That video angle though. Sick.
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If they really pulled that off then Renault could well be fighting with RBR on a regular basis (also assuming the RS.19 is as decent as it appears so far).lio007 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:08 pmhttps://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/statu ... 9620567040
Quite a big step.
Same bs all year every year. Until I see some parity on track claims like this are worthless.lio007 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:08 pmhttps://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/statu ... 9620567040
Quite a big step.
Indeed! I should have added "(if true)" to my remark.Juzh wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 2:37 pmSame bs all year every year. Until I see some parity on track claims like this are worthless.lio007 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:08 pmhttps://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/statu ... 9620567040
Quite a big step.
i heard about 37kW gap on the last spec the spec C of 2018djos wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:13 pmIf they really pulled that off then Renault could well be fighting with RBR on a regular basis (also assuming the RS.19 is as decent as it appears so far).lio007 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:08 pmhttps://twitter.com/AlbertFabrega/statu ... 9620567040
Quite a big step.
RBR ahead till the MelbourneBill wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:27 pmLast year they were claiming to be over 950 hp but was not true,they still have mguk issues to resolve. The won't be fighting Rbr but their junior Str . They have already said Rbr is ahead , it's unlikely Renault will break into the top three which were redbull is
They weren't. Not in testing anyway, which is what is happening now. I remember a year when renault was measured at I think 348 kmh in testing, or somewhere in that region, and was at the top of speed traps. Then in the actual qualyfing in may their speed was like 316-320 and some 10+ kmh behind ferrari/merc, as usual.
Renault said that they have made the biggest gain in V6 era and if I remember correctely their biggest gain previously was about 50 hp so we can guess their 2019 upgrade worth more than 50 hp which atleast puts them ahead of 18 mercedes....Juzh wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:00 pmThey weren't. Not in testing anyway, which is what is happening now. I remember a year when renault was measured at I think 348 kmh in testing, or somewhere in that region, and was at the top of speed traps. Then in the actual qualyfing in may their speed was like 316-320 and some 10+ kmh behind ferrari/merc, as usual.
There's too many variables in testing to make any meaningful conclusions. Especially top speed wise.
348 would have been with a draft and not normal numbers. Without drafting the Renault and Honda were always slower in straight line speed.Juzh wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:00 pmThey weren't. Not in testing anyway, which is what is happening now. I remember a year when renault was measured at I think 348 kmh in testing, or somewhere in that region, and was at the top of speed traps. Then in the actual qualyfing in may their speed was like 316-320 and some 10+ kmh behind ferrari/merc, as usual.
There's too many variables in testing to make any meaningful conclusions. Especially top speed wise.
Renault have claimed 50hp gains minimum at the start of every season since this era began. It's an arbitrary, nice round number marketing can pump forward for their "Spec Sheet" on the official Renault F1 website, they have no reason to be 100% truthful for that, or divulge the situation in which this figure was reached, it's all chest puffery. It has never been true and if you include the "gains" during each season that Abiteboul goes on about, the Renault would be north of 1200hp..amho wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:25 pmRenault said that they have made the biggest gain in V6 era and if I remember correctely their biggest gain previously was about 50 hp so we can guess their 2019 upgrade worth more than 50 hp which atleast puts them ahead of 18 mercedes....Juzh wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:00 pmThey weren't. Not in testing anyway, which is what is happening now. I remember a year when renault was measured at I think 348 kmh in testing, or somewhere in that region, and was at the top of speed traps. Then in the actual qualyfing in may their speed was like 316-320 and some 10+ kmh behind ferrari/merc, as usual.
There's too many variables in testing to make any meaningful conclusions. Especially top speed wise.
While that's true, they've never explained under what conditions or if it's an extra 50hp for an extra 10 race hours over what they previously delivered in full race mode, so you just never know what the "extra 50hp" really means.GhostF1 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:11 amRenault have claimed 50hp gains minimum at the start of every season since this era began. It's an arbitrary, nice round number marketing can pump forward for their "Spec Sheet" on the official Renault F1 website, they have no reason to be 100% truthful for that, or divulge the situation in which this figure was reached, it's all chest puffery. It has never been true and if you include the "gains" during each season that Abiteboul goes on about, the Renault would be north of 1200hp..
As far as actual horsepower goes, Renault have been the most vocal while also being the most exaggerative.
Exactly, they never mention the context or how this was achieved if indeed it was at all. They are vague when they bring it up and they do this a lot.djos wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:19 amWhile that's true, they've never explained under what conditions or if it's an extra 50hp for an extra 10 race hours over what they previously delivered in full race mode, so you just never know what the "extra 50hp" really means.GhostF1 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:11 amRenault have claimed 50hp gains minimum at the start of every season since this era began. It's an arbitrary, nice round number marketing can pump forward for their "Spec Sheet" on the official Renault F1 website, they have no reason to be 100% truthful for that, or divulge the situation in which this figure was reached, it's all chest puffery. It has never been true and if you include the "gains" during each season that Abiteboul goes on about, the Renault would be north of 1200hp..
As far as actual horsepower goes, Renault have been the most vocal while also being the most exaggerative.