I guess it is gram per second and the allowed deviation is 0.03 gram as initially stated above.gruntguru wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2019 11:30 pm3 grams? Are you guys kidding? The fuel flow can momentarily spike to 100.003 kg/hr? Wow - that's worth a whole 0.03 hp.
If there is any truth in the 3 grams figure perhaps it is grams/second ie 10.8 kg/hr? Hmmm that seems a bit much - about 108 hp.
g/min? - that would be 1.8 hp.
you would notice that Ric was still accelerating after the smoke. I don't know about you, but I don't think blown-up engines can do that.
And a broken exhaust CAN produce that kind of smoke?Benii6 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:49 pmOh for ---'s sake. All you delusional RB/Honda fans need to lose your insecurities. Everytime there's some news from Renault, y'all start accusing them of lying because it doesn't fit your narratives.
If you'd actually use your brain, you would notice that Ric was still accelerating after the smoke. I don't know about you, but I don't think blown-up engines can do that.
Are you looking for a root cause or simply an explanation for what you saw on TV? A broken exhaust can cause damage to a lot of parts. If one of those parts was a coolant line therefore subsequently causing a leak, that leak being directed towards the hot exhaust would give the same appearance. Therefore, I would think Renault’s answer was on the side of the root cause.
It seems you didn't even read the article...There was also a hydraulic leak.Pyrone89 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:04 pmAnd a broken exhaust CAN produce that kind of smoke?Benii6 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:49 pmOh for ---'s sake. All you delusional RB/Honda fans need to lose your insecurities. Everytime there's some news from Renault, y'all start accusing them of lying because it doesn't fit your narratives.
If you'd actually use your brain, you would notice that Ric was still accelerating after the smoke. I don't know about you, but I don't think blown-up engines can do that.
And ‘all of us RB/Honda fans’ now the truthfulness of Abiteboul/Renault, that is why it is being questioned.
Good, so we've established that the "exhaust failure" also severed multiple crucial systems (hydraulic, lubrication etc) requiring it's shutdown before detonating and dropping more of its fluids on track (it was visible on camera). So yes, that is a PU failure..Benii6 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:19 pmIt seems you didn't even read the article...There was also a hydraulic leak.Pyrone89 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:04 pmAnd a broken exhaust CAN produce that kind of smoke?Benii6 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:49 pm
Oh for ---'s sake. All you delusional RB/Honda fans need to lose your insecurities. Everytime there's some news from Renault, y'all start accusing them of lying because it doesn't fit your narratives.
If you'd actually use your brain, you would notice that Ric was still accelerating after the smoke. I don't know about you, but I don't think blown-up engines can do that.
And ‘all of us RB/Honda fans’ now the truthfulness of Abiteboul/Renault, that is why it is being questioned.
This is about right. It is perfectly allowed to think critically and think about alternative explanations regarding damage. Just don't make this about Renault's PR or trustworthiness. It's strictly a hardware topic here. As somebody explained here, the exhaust could have been the catalyst that resulted into cascading issues with maybe or maybe not further damage than just the exhaust.subcritical71 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:09 pmAre you looking for a root cause or simply an explanation for what you saw on TV? A broken exhaust can cause damage to a lot of parts. If one of those parts was a coolant line therefore subsequently causing a leak, that leak being directed towards the hot exhaust would give the same appearance. Therefore, I would think Renault’s answer was on the side of the root cause.
If it’s about Renault’s trustworthiness, I would think that doesn’t belong in the PU thread.
This must be hard for people to follow or something...saviour stivala wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:52 amReliability wise (power unit elements used so far –before Hungary) there isn’t much to choose between Renault and Honda power units.
Renault used 1 ES and 2 CE more than Honda running a total of 4 cars.
Honda used 1 more H than Renault running a total of 4 cars.
Renault:- ICE 15. TC 14. H 13, K 11, ES 10. CE 11.
Honda:- ICE 15. TC 14. H 14. K 11. ES 9. CE 9.