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While the technical regulations regarding the power units are going into their 4th stable year, Mercedes' engine Chief, Andy Cowell, has noted there are still gains to be made. Cowell underlined that the key to these continued improvements are Mercedes' proven testing facility.
A directive would be known to all teams and most importantly to the FIA and something like that would have leaked out already, at the same time they claim that a directive could slow down one engine without the others knowing.Between the lines the two title rivals and their allies scatter stories that are supposed to explain the puzzling turnaround in the power duel. There is probably a bit of truth in both versions that are circulating through the paddock. But it is difficult to determine from the outside how much poetry, wishful thinking or politics is involved.
From the Mercedes corner you can hear that Honda has been slowed down by a directive of the FIA. Allegedly there has been a disagreement about how the Japanese operate their energy management for four months.
When asked, the FIA did not know anything about a measure against Honda. Which doesn't have to mean a lot. Corrections to the engine are usually not made public. The technicians of the association discuss this directly with the relevant manufacturer. Not even the competition finds out about it.
Note the consistent use of "allegedly".Another explanation [for the change in the top speed pecking order] comes from the orbit of Red Bull. Ferrari is believed to also be on the trail of this theory. Allegedly, Mercedes cools the air collector (plenum) in certain phases in order to have more power available. Before a qualifying round or the start of the race, this would be allowed, but only with archaic methods. You can cool down the plenum with dry ice. But the effect evaporates relatively quickly.
Systematic cooling of the plenum would at least be a gray area or not allowed at all. "Especially if you support the cooler air in the collector for a short time by injecting more gasoline," it's being said by the Red Bull side.
People became suspicious when Lewis Hamilton caught up with Verstappen every time before the Copse corner at Silverstone with a considerable excess of power, which ultimately led to the accident. Mercedes explained this with the fact that the Honda switched to harvesting at this point. The defending champion denies the accusation of increased performance via any cooling measures.
Yes, but the Blow-off Valve opening during this effect would NOT push a "shedload" of mass flow through the PU...PhillipM wrote: ↑29 Jul 2021, 00:29You can scavenge blowdown pressure with barely any difference in the backpressure. What's more, flowing exhaust gas through both the turbine and the wastegates is always going to flow more air to atmosphere than just the wastegates alone, so that would drop the pressure more than using a diverter setup.
The MGU-H would never be driving the turbine 'faster than the exhaust stream' because by definition spinning the turbo up would be pushing a shedload of mass flow through the compressor and the PU.
Wasn’t dry ice in the plenum an old rumor associated with Ferrari when they were putting those bags on top of the car pre-quali and pre-race?RZS10 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2021, 15:22Probably an early summer break article.
Ignore those 'news aggregate' accounts and go to the source
The article basically claims there are stories going around the paddock and when reading between the lines the competitors supposedly claim those things , there's completely uncredited 'quotes' and the article itself even contradicts itself.
A directive would be known to all teams and most importantly to the FIA and something like that would have leaked out already, at the same time they claim that a directive could slow down one engine without the others knowing.Between the lines the two title rivals and their allies scatter stories that are supposed to explain the puzzling turnaround in the power duel. There is probably a bit of truth in both versions that are circulating through the paddock. But it is difficult to determine from the outside how much poetry, wishful thinking or politics is involved.
From the Mercedes corner you can hear that Honda has been slowed down by a directive of the FIA. Allegedly there has been a disagreement about how the Japanese operate their energy management for four months.
When asked, the FIA did not know anything about a measure against Honda. Which doesn't have to mean a lot. Corrections to the engine are usually not made public. The technicians of the association discuss this directly with the relevant manufacturer. Not even the competition finds out about it.
Note the consistent use of "allegedly".Another explanation [for the change in the top speed pecking order] comes from the orbit of Red Bull. Ferrari is believed to also be on the trail of this theory. Allegedly, Mercedes cools the air collector (plenum) in certain phases in order to have more power available. Before a qualifying round or the start of the race, this would be allowed, but only with archaic methods. You can cool down the plenum with dry ice. But the effect evaporates relatively quickly.
Systematic cooling of the plenum would at least be a gray area or not allowed at all. "Especially if you support the cooler air in the collector for a short time by injecting more gasoline," it's being said by the Red Bull side.
People became suspicious when Lewis Hamilton caught up with Verstappen every time before the Copse corner at Silverstone with a considerable excess of power, which ultimately led to the accident. Mercedes explained this with the fact that the Honda switched to harvesting at this point. The defending champion denies the accusation of increased performance via any cooling measures.
Well... a Ferrari engine guy did go to mercedes...zibby43 wrote: ↑05 Aug 2021, 20:18Wasn’t dry ice in the plenum an old rumor associated with Ferrari when they were putting those bags on top of the car pre-quali and pre-race?RZS10 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2021, 15:22Probably an early summer break article.
Ignore those 'news aggregate' accounts and go to the source
The article basically claims there are stories going around the paddock and when reading between the lines the competitors supposedly claim those things , there's completely uncredited 'quotes' and the article itself even contradicts itself.
A directive would be known to all teams and most importantly to the FIA and something like that would have leaked out already, at the same time they claim that a directive could slow down one engine without the others knowing.Between the lines the two title rivals and their allies scatter stories that are supposed to explain the puzzling turnaround in the power duel. There is probably a bit of truth in both versions that are circulating through the paddock. But it is difficult to determine from the outside how much poetry, wishful thinking or politics is involved.
From the Mercedes corner you can hear that Honda has been slowed down by a directive of the FIA. Allegedly there has been a disagreement about how the Japanese operate their energy management for four months.
When asked, the FIA did not know anything about a measure against Honda. Which doesn't have to mean a lot. Corrections to the engine are usually not made public. The technicians of the association discuss this directly with the relevant manufacturer. Not even the competition finds out about it.
Note the consistent use of "allegedly".Another explanation [for the change in the top speed pecking order] comes from the orbit of Red Bull. Ferrari is believed to also be on the trail of this theory. Allegedly, Mercedes cools the air collector (plenum) in certain phases in order to have more power available. Before a qualifying round or the start of the race, this would be allowed, but only with archaic methods. You can cool down the plenum with dry ice. But the effect evaporates relatively quickly.
Systematic cooling of the plenum would at least be a gray area or not allowed at all. "Especially if you support the cooler air in the collector for a short time by injecting more gasoline," it's being said by the Red Bull side.
People became suspicious when Lewis Hamilton caught up with Verstappen every time before the Copse corner at Silverstone with a considerable excess of power, which ultimately led to the accident. Mercedes explained this with the fact that the Honda switched to harvesting at this point. The defending champion denies the accusation of increased performance via any cooling measures.
That seems like a recycled rumor, unless Merc have learned from Ferrari on that front re: successful implementation.
Article resorts to quite a bit of speculation. I mean they could be right, but could very well not be._cerber1 wrote: ↑07 Aug 2021, 09:30Quite interesting about the Mercedes engine.
Through a translator.
https://www.funoanalisitecnica.com/2021 ... sh_ce=6347
so it begins.. Ferrari doesnt look involved in that. And although Schimdt says otherwise, if the rules on temperatures are not respected, the engine is illegal. hiring AMG technicians seems to be bringing to RBR the same advantages brought by Ferrari ones to AMg.