2017 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, 12-14 May

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In other news...

Press conference schedule:

Drivers
Thurs, 11 May 1500hrs
Part 1:
  • Fernando Alonso (McLaren)
  • Carlos Sainz (Toro Rosso)
  • Sebastian Vettel (Ferrari)
Part 2:
  • Marcus Ericsson (Sauber)
  • Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes)
  • Max Verstappen (Red Bull)
Team Personnel
Friday, 12 May 1600hrs
Part 1:
  • Cyril Abiteboul (Renault)
  • Robert Fernley (Force India)
  • Toto Wolff (Mercedes)
Part 2:
  • Maurizio Arrivabene (Ferrari)
  • Christian Horner (Red Bull)
  • Monisha Kaltenborn (Sauber)

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BosF1 wrote:
Wed May 03, 2017 10:12 am
We got the best drivers in the world, in the fastest cornering cars ever build, yet they aren't able to closely follow each other because of that downforce.
It's not my intention to be picky or pedantic with your post but the first claim is debatable(how can we know that Dixon, Power or Lotterer, for instance, are worse drivers than say Vettel?!) and the second one is incorrect, as shown here.

More to the point, it's tougher to get closely behind but not that impossible. Russia was a bad impression of it, imo. We could see some very nice racing on China and Bahrain. Barcelona will, as always, be impossible to pass but we can't blame solely the new aero for that. I think we'll see some nice racing again when F1 goes to Canada.
CBeck113 wrote:
Wed May 03, 2017 12:52 pm
RB still in no-man's land (I wonder if Adrian has figured out what Ferrari has done with their sidepods? Sorry.... :-) ), Ric in front of Verstappen for a change.
Newey is not to blame. The car is already fast on the corners(you can check it here and here), it just lacks power.
baybars wrote:
Wed May 03, 2017 8:22 am
If true (new Redbull )The word/rumour is 1 second per lap quicker (based on simulator data).
I am not sure is it enough for podium
I doubt they will improve that much, but if they will, it will be enough to fight for pole and win(as long as Ferrari and Mercedes improves little), imo. Which is why I don't see it happening. But I think RB will be within 0.5s on QLF, if the car is really an "RB14"

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Artur Craft wrote:
Wed May 10, 2017 7:13 pm
BosF1 wrote:
Wed May 03, 2017 10:12 am
We got the best drivers in the world, in the fastest cornering cars ever build, yet they aren't able to closely follow each other because of that downforce.
It's not my intention to be picky or pedantic with your post but the first claim is debatable(how can we know that Dixon, Power or Lotterer, for instance, are worse drivers than say Vettel?!) and the second one is incorrect, as shown here.

More to the point, it's tougher to get closely behind but not that impossible. Russia was a bad impression of it, imo. We could see some very nice racing on China and Bahrain. Barcelona will, as always, be impossible to pass but we can't blame solely the new aero for that. I think we'll see some nice racing again when F1 goes to Canada.
CBeck113 wrote:
Wed May 03, 2017 12:52 pm
RB still in no-man's land (I wonder if Adrian has figured out what Ferrari has done with their sidepods? Sorry.... :-) ), Ric in front of Verstappen for a change.
Newey is not to blame. The car is already fast on the corners(you can check it here and here), it just lacks power.
baybars wrote:
Wed May 03, 2017 8:22 am
If true (new Redbull )The word/rumour is 1 second per lap quicker (based on simulator data).
I am not sure is it enough for podium
I doubt they will improve that much, but if they will, it will be enough to fight for pole and win(as long as Ferrari and Mercedes improves little), imo. Which is why I don't see it happening. But I think RB will be within 0.5s on QLF, if the car is really an "RB14"
The RB14 thingy is out of the world, Red Bull confirmed themselves.
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Juzh wrote:
Thu May 11, 2017 2:11 pm
Hard tiers as useless as predicted

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/pere ... es-904199/
As Perez says "too many maybes", it sould be extra hot to make them work.

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Looking at all the updates that Mercedes has brought, I think we can have 2 options for the race (and the rest of the season):
- Mercedes starts dominating again
- Ferrari & Mercedes stay close

I hoping for the last one, but fear the first one.

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Merc updates look scary. No wonder Lauda was so smug!
"Sebastian there's very, you're a member of a very select few.. Stewart, Lauda, Piquet, Senna, Prost, Schumacher, Fangio.. VETTEL!"

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Schuttelberg wrote:
Thu May 11, 2017 9:40 pm
Merc updates look scary. No wonder Lauda was so smug!
So did the car they started the season with and look how that turned out....the proof is on the track not in how many winglets and other bits u can put on your car

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why are there some cars in the field with no driver names on the side profile of the car (RB, Ferr, FI etc),
Isnt it mandated now to have that like merc, wil and Haas?

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Schuttelberg wrote:
Thu May 11, 2017 9:40 pm
Merc updates look scary. No wonder Lauda was so smug!
It's really ominous. We'll have to see what happens on track.

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giantfan10 wrote:
Thu May 11, 2017 11:41 pm
Schuttelberg wrote:
Thu May 11, 2017 9:40 pm
Merc updates look scary. No wonder Lauda was so smug!
So did the car they started the season with and look how that turned out....the proof is on the track not in how many winglets and other bits u can put on your car
Well it turned out they are leading the constructors championship with 2 wins. Not bad. Just because the Ferrari is probably just as fast as the Merc doesn't make the latter not scary. Just ask the rest of the field.

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giantfan10 wrote:
Thu May 11, 2017 11:41 pm
Schuttelberg wrote:
Thu May 11, 2017 9:40 pm
Merc updates look scary. No wonder Lauda was so smug!
So did the car they started the season with and look how that turned out....the proof is on the track not in how many winglets and other bits u can put on your car
Experience teaches a man great deal of things. That 70% new car of 2015, has helped many people to keep emotions in check (don't count ya chickens....) and wait until it does what it is designed to do. Very noble thoughts. :)

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GPR-A wrote:
Fri May 12, 2017 6:11 am
giantfan10 wrote:
Thu May 11, 2017 11:41 pm
Schuttelberg wrote:
Thu May 11, 2017 9:40 pm
Merc updates look scary. No wonder Lauda was so smug!
So did the car they started the season with and look how that turned out....the proof is on the track not in how many winglets and other bits u can put on your car
Experience teaches a man great deal of things. That 70% new car of 2015, has helped many people to keep emotions in check (don't count ya chickens....) and wait until it does what it is designed to do. Very noble thoughts. :)
You have worn that one out...
So Mercedes was the first of the frontrunning teams to blink and apply their engine update to go along with an engine change.
Interesting... i wonder what the next move will be if Ferrari ends up on the top step of the podium... again.
Anybody else of the opinion that the mercedes chassis looks like a convoluted mess ?

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Aaaand Fernando parked his Car after a few Corners on the Outlap. Great Start.....

Lots of smoke and fluid leaking out of the Car according to AMuS.....
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it kept leaking whilst being moved off track, couldn't get it into neutral Image
which of the fluids is yellow?

Vettel says his gearbox broke.

Here's the current PU parts with changes in red numbers, i think we can add more stuff to ALO for FP2
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