Ferrari 2018 concept with Aeroscreen

[jerreclaus]

The only reservation I have with this shield is will we be able to clearly see drivers raising their fist in anger towards other drivers?

That's actually a very good point And indeed one of the few reasons why I'd prefer to not see these kind of devices on Formula 1 cars. Let's just hope wheel banging won't become the new standard, then!

Well, if an engine blows in front of you, you have a mandatory pitstop to do

Interesting comment, didn't really think of that. Would a dirt-repellent coating be a solution? And what about bugs and other grime... I'm anxious to find out what the test this weekend will bring to light.

[F1NAC]

That are some mad 3d modeling skills. Any chance for similar model being available in grabcad? Would like to know how experienced are you in Solidworks. And technoques used to model this beauty. Mega...

[SiLo]

CAn we get a view from inside the cockpit?

[jerreclaus]

CAn we get a view from inside the cockpit?

I didn't finish the interior, but here's a screen grab straight out of Keyshot. I made the Halo structure so that it follows the eye line of the driver, so from what I can simulate the view is the same as it is now. Added a standard environment for reference - though the street is not aligned, you get the picture.

[Tim.Wright]

The angle of the screen must be pretty close to total internal reflection.

what on earth are you talking about.

Read up on it - you might learn something.

Once you pass the critical angle you will only see a reflection of the inside of the cockpit rather than the outside world.

[jerreclaus]

The angle of the screen must be pretty close to total internal reflection.

what on earth are you talking about.

Read up on it - you might learn something.

Once you pass the critical angle you will only see a reflection of the inside of the cockpit rather than the outside world.

It's true. I simulated it in my render software, the "dashboard" and Scuderia branding I put on top of it was all over the Shield (Screenshot has been posted but has to be reviewed first apparently). Maybe an anti-glare filter could help, but I'm just guessing.

[Tiny73]

That looks fantastic and certainly addresses the aesthetics problem that both the halo and shield (to a lesser extent) have presented.

My only challenge would be why you have RAI on the side, should be RIC or VER in 2018 surely?

[j2004p]

Sorry to continue the general fawning over this design but as long as it is technically feasible this MUST be the new design going forwards.

The car looks glorious!

[TAG]

Looks a lot less "sexy" in the real life implementation.

[Manoah2u]

Looks a lot less "sexy" in the real life implementation.

https://scontent.fagc1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/ ... e=5A05EAFF

https://scontent.fagc1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/ ... e=5A076CA4

https://scontent.fagc1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/ ... e=5A09ECBB

that's because

A) it's not an aeroscreen, it's a fighter jet canopy
B) it's an entirely different design, so referring to point A above
C) it's covered in tape or damaged
D) the car is not designed for this device, the render before is.

it's not similar so don't compare an apple with an orange or pear.

[Manoah2u]

The angle of the screen must be pretty close to total internal reflection.

what on earth are you talking about.

Read up on it - you might learn something.

Once you pass the critical angle you will only see a reflection of the inside of the cockpit rather than the outside world.

now i understand your point, i couldn't make any sense from that statement to be honest.

well, anti-glare, anti-reflection surely would do something. also, the cause of the reflection would be that the top of the 'monocoque' is glossy and reflective of nature, and thus reflects in the also-reflective (inner) part of the wind/aeroscreen.

anti-glare and de-mirror the wind.aero.screen AND anti-glare non-gloss the top of the monocoque where it's below the aeroscreen and i think you're immediately on a much better route.

[TAG]

Looks a lot less "sexy" in the real life implementation.

https://scontent.fagc1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/ ... e=5A05EAFF

https://scontent.fagc1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/ ... e=5A076CA4

https://scontent.fagc1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/ ... e=5A09ECBB

that's because

A) it's not an aeroscreen, it's a fighter jet canopy
B) it's an entirely different design, so referring to point A above
C) it's covered in tape or damaged
D) the car is not designed for this device, the render before is.

it's not similar so don't compare an apple with an orange or pear.

Thanks for pointing out the ovious, I know it's not an "aeroscreen" but the FiA are not testing the "aeroscreen" for obvious reasons. The tape in the image I can't help, it's not broken by the way, but that doesn't stop you guessing at something you don't know about. None of the cars are designed for what's been tested because nothing has been approved. Not the Red Bull solution, not the flip-flop cage and not this. Thanks again though for feeling so negatively about seeing the images as being tested this weekend.

[Manoah2u]

I would love to make some other liveries but it is a little time consuming (set up and rendering) so don't wait up for it I'll see what I can do though. I reckon a Senna era Mclaren livery would kick candy covered balls on this one. The MP4-4 had a similar looking screen now that I think of it.

would look fantastic, sure but honestly, i don't think you should go for that primary,
simply because there's enough retro liveries out there and it's focusing the attention on something else
than your excellent work.

the attention must be in the design and implementation, putting a retro mclaren livery on it would only
focus on that.

Better put a RedBull livery from any on it, or a Mercedes livery. They're current day liveries, and they are
much easier to imagine being real, and would also gain more attention from the correct angles of interest.
meaning; the biggest objective is not pleasing fans, it's convincing the big guns [teams, fia, commercial side, etc].
you don't do that with ancient liveries.

implement those digital mirrors, hud, minimize the glare/reflection inside, let the drivers be visible, and see if there are other areas to gain.

i think it would be an immensly good opportunity to reconcider applying groundworks [floor-aero] of the old days too.
it would also bring aero possibilities being much more aerodynamic.

your design is the way to go, the others are just makedo solutions that won't do.

[TAG]

Here's a better shot of the windscreen, I made an extra effort to go get it for the one guy who was so incensed about the previous images.

[Manoah2u]

LOL. that does look better, would like to see a total shot though. appreciete the effort though