Chuckjr wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:08 am
Nah. People will remember the distinct advantage Hamilton had in his career (even starting as a rookie in a championship capable car) just like people remember Schumi winning in a Ferrari that should not have been winning early in his Ferrari career, or later Fred beating Schumi in a Renault after the Ferrari became completely dominant.
With all due respect, but you're watching the wrong sport if you think there's any true merit to the achievements of a driver. It's a team-sport
, mainly dictated by how much resources and money one can throw at it. It devalues anything a driver may have achieved, because without the team, the driver's achievements are nothing.
The only true benchmark we have of any driver, is his performance against his team-mate in the same car. We'll never have a true measure of how driver A would perform against driver B in another team unless they drive in equal machinery. We do get a rough pecking order of drivers, but it's not exact science. Hamilton could possibly be the best of this generation, but unless he ever drives against Vettel or Verstappen, Leclerc, Ricciardo in the same car, it's just assumptions. Any of those could be better when placed in the same team, there's no way to know for certain.
I'll happily admit, I believe Hamilton is the best of that group, including Verstappen, but Verstappen still has room to grow. One thing that is undisputed is that as a team-and-driver package, Hamilton and Mercedes are the dominating force of F1 of the last 5 years. Nothing more, nothing less. Hamilton without Mercedes would be nothing more than what we see Alonso as; possibly one of the best drivers in F1 without the car to prove it.
Therefore, even if Hamilton would go to Ferrari to prove anything - it would simply start the whole conversation from new. Best driver in probably the best car wins, just as Hamilton gets it now having achieved that with Mercedes after previously driving for McLaren. It's a never ending cycle of arguments.
If you want to see the best athletes compared fairly against other athletes, go and watch Tennis. Or Olympics. F1 is just a sport/business where the car and team accounts for most of the drivers achievements.
And I'm saying this as a big Hamilton fan who does believe that Hamilton is probably the driver of a generation. But you will never be able to prove that with hard numbers because that's just not how F1 works.