NathanE wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 16, 2020 7:24 am
Moore77 wrote: ↑
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PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑
Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:59 pm
Michael has not taken any offense to it. He is fine with it.
Hamilton doesnt have to kiss his feet. He spoke the truth when he said he didn't want to win like Schumi did
. He should be praised for saying that.
I take that as, taking a challenge to leave a team where he won 2 titles and working his a** off to build a strong team and bringing all that lost glory for a marquee team, instead of being a driver that just drove dominant cars. It takes a lot of stuff in a man.
Are you talking about Hamilton here? Remember when everyone thought he was mad to leave the amazing team he was in for the lacklustre Mercedes. Most people thought it was the end of a promising career. He obviously became a big part of building up what has become, with his help, the most dominant team and car ever. It's clearly not all down to him, but then the brief glory years at Ferarri were not all down to MS either.
It seems you haven't followed either driver's journey closer. The fundamental point to Hamilton leaving McLaren, was that he got frustrated of not winning another title at McLaren.
https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472 ... -bull-move
Bernie Ecclestone says Lewis Hamilton originally wanted 2013 Red Bull move
With Webber's extended deal ultimately making academic any ambitions Hamilton harboured of a switch to the sport's recent dominant force, the 28-year-old was forced to look elsewhere if he wanted to leave his long-time McLaren home.
In September Hamilton duly agreed a three-year deal with Mercedes, and now six months on, Ecclestone says he first floated the idea to the British star.
"Why not talk to Mercedes, Lewis?," Ecclestone claimed he suggested.
"Lewis rolled his eyes ... but I told him that he had nothing to lose as he wanted out of McLaren."
That doesn't in any way say, Hamilton was eager to go and build Mercedes!
Whereas Schumacher, left Benetton where he had won two titles and wanted to take up the baton at Ferrari to make them win again! He brought in Ross Brawn and Rory Byrne and he put his foot down to keep Todt when he was about to be fired in 1996. That shows how he built that success around him. Sure, it's never one man's job. But you need self belief, vision and an ability to trust the right people. All of that, was there in abundance in the journey of his success.
Here is another wonderful piece of fact.
https://www.racefans.net/2019/01/03/sch ... ess-brawn/
Schumacher was key to Mercedes’ championship success – Brawn
Brawn said Schumacher’s arrival provoked some resistance in the team but he “helped to instil and reinforce the principles of how to do things” which won him support.
“I’ve worked with Michael and knew what he was like and the standards he maintained and I knew the levels he worked to,” said Brawn in an interview for the official F1 website. “Those guys hadn’t.”
Among those who were initially unsure about Schumacher was Jock Clear, who had been Jacques Villeneuve’s race engineer when Schumacher collided with the Williams driver while trying to beat him to the 1997 world championship.
“Jock Clear who was Villeneuve’s engineering when Michael and Villeneuve came together, almost hated Michael with a passion, yet became one of Michael’s closest friends when Michael came to the team and worked with him,” said Brawn.
“Michael’s work ethic, discipline and application just won everyone over. It raised the standard of the team in knowing what they could or should be doing. I think I had an impact but Michael had just as much, even more impact on the team when he came and worked there.
“Andrew Shovlin said to me, especially when they won their first world championship and I was talking to him about it, he said Michael had an awful lot to do with us winning this world championship.”
Mercedes team principal Toto Wolff described Schumacher as “one of the founding fathers of the success we have had in the last five years.”
So you see, who laid the foundation for that success that Hamilton is enjoying?
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