WEC 2020 Tech Regulations - Hypercar Regulations

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Is this a good thing? If manufacteurs like McLaren, Ferrari and Aston comes with road cars to WEC, do you think they will still be racing at GT3 categorie?

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If this is homologation based, Aston is in a good position. They've got the most advanced aero with the Valkyrie, compared to the rest of the new gen of 'supercars' (per the article; they call the 'hypercars' the series-specific cars with road-car styling). They may still impose aero, power, and weight limits, which might effectively make the brick-shaped supercars more competitive. Sort of like how the BMW M8 is able to compete against the Ford GT in the GTE class.

How the purpose-built 'hypercars' are to be designed has yet to be revealed, so it's hard to say how they'll stack up against invitational Valkyries. Perhaps they'll be an evolution of LMP chassis and bodywork regs; spec floors with road car inspired upper surfaces, similar to GT1, DTM, or GT500.

I suspect a Valkyrie AMR Pro will end up being quicker than an LMP car, so the regulations will need to either hinder it with ballast and restrictors, or free up the hypercar regs so that they won't be development limited.

The change in the rules for the new category published last December will permit cars such as the Aston Martin Valkyrie and the McLaren Senna to compete against a new breed of prototype incorporating only styling cues from road-going machinery.

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Speaking of which...

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That rear wing and diffuser are insane
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Morteza wrote:
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That rear wing and diffuser are insane
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1JHkrYXgAcB4pW.jpg
The endplates are LMP1-esque.

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This interests me quite a bit, far more than what's happening in lmp. Could somebody race the FXX K cars as well now?

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917 tribute concept. Full reveal within a few days, apparently.

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WEC finalises 'hyper sport' rules for 2020/21
As expected, the WEC will open up its top class to both specialised prototypes and machines derived from road-going hypercars on the condition that at least 20 production models are created over a two-year period.

The highlights of the technical details include a revised weight, lowered slightly to 1100kg and a changed power output of 750bhp in order for the LMP1 replacement category to reach 3m30s laps in race trim at Le Mans.

The hybrid systems will not be mandatory, but those who choose to head down this route must not exceed 270bhp, with a GTE-based BoP system set to be applied in-season to keep the hybrid and non-hybrid machines close in performance.

There are also containment measures on the hybrid power front to help peg back the advantage of a four-wheel drive system compared to the two-wheel drive entries.

There is an openness on the engine front, with the prototype hypercars allowed to produce a "bespoke" design or a modified derivative from a road-going hypercar.

The road-based hypercars will use a version based on the original car or manufacturer's design.

A "regulated power curve" and a singular fuel supplier will also be used to help maintain competitiveness between the variety of cars.

There will be freedom in the design of the hypercars in terms of body and underbody, as long as the styling does not impact on safety criteria.
https://twitter.com/FIAWEC/status/1139449611863691264

Aston Martin and Toyota are confirmed to participate under new regulations
https://twitter.com/astonmartin/status/ ... 5667545088

https://twitter.com/Toyota_Hybrid/statu ... 6628451329
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6.5L straight pipe V12 down the Mulsanne...

Who will drive it? 8)

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Will Merc give it a go with the AMG One?

Porsche did some development work on a small turbocharged V6 for a potential 2021 F1 entry. What are the chances they show up to WEC next year with something powered by its derivative? Or will they simply dust off the 919 Evo and decimate everyone.
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roon wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:38 pm
Will Merc give it a go with the AMG One?

Porsche did some development work on a small turbocharged V6 for a potential 2021 F1 entry. What are the chances they show up to WEC next year with something powered by its derivative? Or will they simply dust off the 918 Evo and decimate everyone.
None of the German companies really have a hypercar. So I'm not sure there would be a point in them competing. They may as well stick with gte instead.

Only thing they would be interested in is the tech but it's pretty reined in vs lmp1

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The regulations are really interesting, looking forward to seeing what Toyota and Aston Martin do. It will be good to see both of them have customer teams as well, Aston are looking to have at least one. ByKolles are developing one as well, and i think it will be soon that more customer hyper cars come along from OEMs like Ligier and Oreca, and what Gibson can do with their engines as well.

Would love for Porsche, Mercedes, McLaren and others in there as well

However, i do hope that LMP2 stays and they can do something with LMP3 duding the same chassis with only a change in engine being needed for each to be contra compatible with each other, the LMP2s need a jump in horsepower to 675hp from a 4.5litre naturally aspirated V8 or a 3.8litre Twin Turbo V8 with everything else standard, apart from the Dunlop/Michelen tyre war, id give the LMP2 cars a 100KG fuel tank as well. The LMP3s need a 450hp V6 engine, a production based engine open to all. I just think LMP2 and LMP3 need a little extra horsepower.

LMP2 and LMP3 need at least 26 cars in each of their classes, with LMP3 being the 'support' class. Both classes would get that dreaded BoP in there with success ballast as well.

The GT classes are fine at the moment.

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The changes to the bodywork regs are significant. The floor shape in top tier endurance racing has been dictacted for 20 years or more. That's gone now.

Singular fuel supplier--something F1 should try.

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ESPImperium wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:47 pm
The regulations are really interesting, looking forward to seeing what Toyota and Aston Martin do. It will be good to see both of them have customer teams as well, Aston are looking to have at least one. ByKolles are developing one as well, and i think it will be soon that more customer hyper cars come along from OEMs like Ligier and Oreca, and what Gibson can do with their engines as well.

Would love for Porsche, Mercedes, McLaren and others in there as well

However, i do hope that LMP2 stays and they can do something with LMP3 duding the same chassis with only a change in engine being needed for each to be contra compatible with each other, the LMP2s need a jump in horsepower to 675hp from a 4.5litre naturally aspirated V8 or a 3.8litre Twin Turbo V8 with everything else standard, apart from the Dunlop/Michelen tyre war, id give the LMP2 cars a 100KG fuel tank as well. The LMP3s need a 450hp V6 engine, a production based engine open to all. I just think LMP2 and LMP3 need a little extra horsepower.

LMP2 and LMP3 need at least 26 cars in each of their classes, with LMP3 being the 'support' class. Both classes would get that dreaded BoP in there with success ballast as well.

The GT classes are fine at the moment.
The issue at the moment is that the new regs aim for a minimum lap time of 3:30. The lmp2's are already zooming around at roughly this time. So if anything the lmp2's might get pegged back by 50hp. Unless the new manufacturers really knock it out of the park but without hybrids and the current engine regs I think it will be rather difficult.