Manoah2u wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 16, 2019 1:06 am
Eh, no, it WON'T be an option, as there is NO WAY IN LIFE, that RB, would ALLOW that to happen.
And i repeat, Honda would not WANT to make another deal with Mclaren, as they already have a deal with Toro Rosso too, and also getting Mclaren a Honda engine would DAMAGE RB's opportunities, aswell as ToroRosso's, so it's really easy; it's NOT an option as Honda simply will not even concider it.
Williams as a 3rd team? that could happen, even though the Honda engine would have to improve quite significantly AND be cheaper than what Mercedes has on the table. So even that, wouldnt seem anything that would happen. Haas, especially with branding it as Acura, would be far more possible but then again, Haas has a very happy deal with Ferrari, running a Ferrari engine, Ferrari parts wherever possible, and running a Dallara chassis, built and designed with that in mind. so why even bother then?
As mentioned above, the only thing that could ruin the RB-Honda party is if the engine would still be a disappointment, and there's a good chance as mentioned that RB could even pull the plug from their F1 project, if such thing would happen. Rest assured, that you can be absolutely sure, that Honda would likewise pull the plug, once again, from their F1 project if that would be the case. So guess what, there will STILL not be an Honda option for Mclaren, as there simply won't be a Honda around anymore.
Not at the very least because if the Honda engine STILL won't perform, and RB thus ditches it and would theoretically make it possible for Honda to be open for another team (instead of pulling the plug), then Mclaren themselves wouldn't even take that as an option, as the engine has been nothing but failure for them. Why on earth then return to an abusive, non-fruitful relationship that won't last and will once again leave you broke and damaged?
There is ZERO credibility to any claim that Honda even COULD or could CONCIDER getting back with Mclaren, and that would thus be an 'option' for Mclaren.NO.
Mclaren HAD no option but to go to renault, which is the most embarassing part of it all, and meanwhile, that engine, as said, will neither be what they need to get to where they want to be.
And YES, it has been theorized Mclaren could decide going for their own engine. BUT that quickly goes down the drain too concidering there is going to change nothing with the engines in the (near) future, and that would mean even by 2020, they have a 6 year defecit in practical development and experience, even more concidering the
development and research that went into the other engines BEFORE entering F1.
Thus it makes no sense for them to make their own engine in the current format.
And you might add to that another not too minor issue;
concidering how much of a failure honda-mclaren was, and how arguably that is not the very least thanks to Mclaren,
then you might atleast ponder how on earth Mclaren is going to be even able to produce a competitive engine themselves, invest billions and billions there, to very likely come to the conclusion it was as big as a failure as the honda partnership, and see them once again needing to ditch a new engine, and seek a new partner.
So colour my pretty negative and highly critical for Mclaren's aspirations, if you will. But believe me, i would have really really preffered to see otherwise.
There would have been no pairing i would have wanted to see win races and the WDC and WCC more than Alonso with a Mclaren-Honda. But that fantasy is gone. I am as said highly doubtfull Mclaren is going to reach anything with Renault.
The only scenario i currently envision on seeing Mclaren back in glory,
is IF Mercedes decides to pull the plug on their own F1 team, and revert to being an engine supplier,
which would certainly see Mclaren pound onto a Mercedes partnership, immediately take Toto Wolff aboard,
and grab a a-class driver alongside. Hamilton won't happen, Vettel neither. Verstappen could, Ricciardo probably not,
but it might be interesting to see how Norris and Russel will fare. Norris will probably have been too long at Mclaren with non-potential engine, so i'd opt for Russell instead. Mick Schumacher might be an interesting option though, if he is as talented as we all hope he is.
but i'm wondering off way too far.
Mclaren won't be in any honestly exciting position untill atleast 2023 or 2024. And by that i mean fighting for P1, P2, or P3 on own merit, for poles,wins and titles.