Mercedes-AMG F1 W10 EQ Power+

[zibby43]

I think that idea about the cutouts affecting the diffuser is exaggerated.
The car didn't have aerodynamic problems in Austria. It was all down to the PU not being able to withstand the heat.
That engine is so well packaged and probably over refined to the point the safety factors for cooling are very marginal.
The car was soaked with heat preventing the drivers from pushing the whole race.
What is most striking to me is that that there was nothing wrong with the engine. No issues with combustion or radiators or pumps.This was a perfectly fine engine, that simply wasn't designed for a 40 degree ambient. The design is too refined.

A source from within the team said the opening up of the bodywork they did cost them about 5 tenths of a second per lap in Austria.

[zibby43]

It was like that in France:
https://imgr4.auto-motor-und-sport.de/M ... 603962.jpg

Yep. The shape of the cutouts haven't changed, from what I've seen. Pre-France:



Lifting and coasting during the race:

[roon]

Earlier in the year:

Upper edge of the outlet became more flattened.

[Just_a_fan]

Earlier in the year:

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/va ... 1125980911

https://i.imgur.com/rtIcYhz.jpg

Upper edge of the outlet became more flattened.

The first picture was the "get something out for testing" car at the start of testing, so it's not representative of the race car's development.

[Just_a_fan]

Lifting and coasting during the race:

https://streamable.com/tvmhv

https://streamable.com/b419q

What's amazing is that they spent so much time off throttle and were still faster than everyone apart from Ferrari and RedBull, and even then it took Vettel quite a few laps to catch up and pass Lewis after Seb made his second stop. Which suggests they were still carrying very good corner speeds.

[wesley123]

I think that idea about the cutouts affecting the diffuser is exaggerated.
The car didn't have aerodynamic problems in Austria. It was all down to the PU not being able to withstand the heat.
That engine is so well packaged and probably over refined to the point the safety factors for cooling are very marginal.
The car was soaked with heat preventing the drivers from pushing the whole race.
What is most striking to me is that that there was nothing wrong with the engine. No issues with combustion or radiators or pumps.This was a perfectly fine engine, that simply wasn't designed for a 40 degree ambient. The design is too refined.

A source from within the team said the opening up of the bodywork they did cost them about 5 tenths of a second per lap in Austria.

Changes for cooling your car will always mean you lose some aero.

Seeing the Merc sidepods I don't think it's design lends itself well to open up the rear.

[roon]

Earlier in the year:

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/va ... 1125980911

https://i.imgur.com/rtIcYhz.jpg

Upper edge of the outlet became more flattened.

The first picture was the "get something out for testing" car at the start of testing, so it's not representative of the race car's development.

No, the small double-barrel outlet was in use earlier this year and also last year. Its been a distinctive feature for them as they dont appear much larger than the main exhaust pipe. The outlet used at Spielberg is flatter at the top and wider.

2019 Australian GP:


Austria 2019:


2018:

[Just_a_fan]

No, the small double-barrel outlet was in use earlier this year and also last year. Its been a distinctive feature for them as they dont appear much larger than the main exhaust pipe. The outlet used at Spielberg is flatter at the top and wider.

Ok.

But the first picture you previously showed was the early pre-season car. The sidepods are "fat" where the Petronas logo is.

[63l8qrrfy6]

I hear they are bringing a massive update to Germany that's meant to deliver some outrageous laptime gains.

[zibby43]

I hear they are bringing a massive update to Germany that's meant to deliver some outrageous laptime gains.

Source?

[digitalrurouni]

Lifting and coasting during the race:

https://streamable.com/tvmhv

https://streamable.com/b419q

What's amazing is that they spent so much time off throttle and were still faster than everyone apart from Ferrari and RedBull, and even then it took Vettel quite a few laps to catch up and pass Lewis after Seb made his second stop. Which suggests they were still carrying very good corner speeds.

This. I read they were lifting and coasting 400 meters?! Also is it just me or Hamilton taking T1 rather weird? So wide? Off kerbs?

[erudite450]

Lifting and coasting during the race:

https://streamable.com/tvmhv

https://streamable.com/b419q

What's amazing is that they spent so much time off throttle and were still faster than everyone apart from Ferrari and RedBull, and even then it took Vettel quite a few laps to catch up and pass Lewis after Seb made his second stop. Which suggests they were still carrying very good corner speeds.

This. I read they were lifting and coasting 400 meters?! Also is it just me or Hamilton taking T1 rather weird? So wide? Off kerbs?

He did that a few times in free practice during his qualy sims. I actually think it is the faster way through that corner because they don't seem to lose anything straddling that kerb.

[erudite450]

I hear they are bringing a massive update to Germany that's meant to deliver some outrageous laptime gains.

I have been wondering when they'd bring the next upgrade as I have seen anything major since Barcelona.

[astracrazy]

I hear they are bringing a massive update to Germany that's meant to deliver some outrageous laptime gains.

I have been wondering when they'd bring the next upgrade as I have seen anything major since Barcelona.

The advantage they have is they dont “need” to bring one. They can afford to push any upgrades back to work on them more and maybe roll them into other upgrades. Unlike other teams who will be wanting to bring upgrades to the track as soon as.

The german one, if true, maybe is so big because a) its been worked on for so long and b) is two or more rolled into one.

[zibby43]

I hear they are bringing a massive update to Germany that's meant to deliver some outrageous laptime gains.

I have been wondering when they'd bring the next upgrade as I have seen anything major since Barcelona.

The advantage they have is they dont “need” to bring one. They can afford to push any upgrades back to work on them more and maybe roll them into other upgrades. Unlike other teams who will be wanting to bring upgrades to the track as soon as.

The german one, if true, maybe is so big because a) its been worked on for so long and b) is two or more rolled into one.

It’s vaporware until there’s a source attributed to it.