2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by FrukostScones » Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:01 pm

DANGER (slow corners :mrgreen: )!
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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by ME4ME » Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:12 pm

One of my least favorite circuits. Not a big fan of the heavily DRS assisted turn1 overtakes.
Expecting an easy Mercedes 1-2.

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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by Phil » Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:25 pm

siskue2005 wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:26 pm
Schuttelberg wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:08 am
Just_a_fan wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:16 am


A hat trick of what? :?:
Losing a grand prix in Baku he should have won.
He never deserved the 2017 win!
2018 was fifty fifty.
Interesting fact: assuming Lewis head rest issue would have unfolded regardless if Seb had red-mist or not, Seb would have been in the best position to capitalize on that. So yeah, Seb could have won that race indeed.
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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by dtro » Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:50 pm

zac510 wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:53 pm
dans79 wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:01 pm

The run to turn 1 is so short that even a mediocre start should guarantee you maintain your starting position.
Yeah, it's turn 2 that's the danger zone!
They might as well put "Welcome to the Thunderdome" when the five red lights go out, and with the wider front wings there might be further madness.

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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by siskue2005 » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:05 pm

Phil wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:25 pm
siskue2005 wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:26 pm
Schuttelberg wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:08 am


Losing a grand prix in Baku he should have won.
He never deserved the 2017 win!
2018 was fifty fifty.
Interesting fact: assuming Lewis head rest issue would have unfolded regardless if Seb had red-mist or not, Seb would have been in the best position to capitalize on that. So yeah, Seb could have won that race indeed.
Interesting fact: assuming Vettel got the same penalty as the ones who got similar penalties in the past for their red mist, then Lewis would have won the championship with 7 races to go. :mrgreen:
this would have could have if but etc game is not good :D

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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by FrukostScones » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:21 pm

ME4ME wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:12 pm
One of my least favorite circuits. Not a big fan of the heavily DRS assisted turn1 overtakes.
Expecting an easy Mercedes 1-2.
noo way Merc gonna selfdestruct.

I expect something like LEC, NOR, GAS.
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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by zibby43 » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:36 pm

Mansell89 wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:56 am
Does Bahrain form usually get confirmed in Azjerbaijan due to some similarities between the circuits?

Rear-limited, long straights, “Point and squirt” and low speed corners? Or would it be wrong to say that?

Just thinking last year, Ferrari were the fastest car at both tracks despite not getting the result in Baku.

Would welcome your thoughts :)
There are some similarities, but there is one important variable you're forgetting: the nature/abrasion level of the asphalt itself.

Bahrain is one of the most abrasive circuits on the entire calendar. Accordingly, most teams have to compromise their front ends and set their cars up with understeer in order for the rear tires to survive the race.

Bahrain is on one end of the extreme in the sense that, out of all the circuits, it probably requires the least amount of front end performance. Shanghai is on the opposite end of the spectrum (so is Melbourne).

Baku has one of the least abrasive surfaces on the calendar, so teams that do have good front end performance won't have to sacrifice that trait for tire wear purposes in the race.

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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by djones » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:48 pm

Looking at the track I think the straight line speed of the Ferrari is going to be even more cancelled out in the corners than the last race.

To the point where maybe even Redbull will beat them.

Without technical or driver issues, I think it's a foregone conclusion for Mercedes to be fastest.

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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by BwajSF » Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:47 am

Why is it always so much negativity surrounding ferrari even before the weekend starts.. even before thier packages arrive to the circuit...??
Ferrari are bringing updates to baku to get thier slow corners issues addressed. if those updates deliver then the straight line speed advantage with better performance at slow corners they would be untouchable... every team has had off weekends... In melborne Ferrari coudnt get thier car into window in addition to thier slow speed corner issues.. in bahrain Mercs and Redbulls had the same window issue...
Setting up the cars have been anything less of a ma-moth job.. so if ferrari can get it right... set-up wise.. i see them disappearing in the distance with Mercs in the trailing them by atleast 0.2 to 0.3 in quali and a health 20sec in race.
Fingers crossed..

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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by wickedz50 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 7:40 am

BwajSF wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:47 am
Why is it always so much negativity surrounding ferrari even before the weekend starts.. even before thier packages arrive to the circuit...??
Ferrari are bringing updates to baku to get thier slow corners issues addressed. if those updates deliver then the straight line speed advantage with better performance at slow corners they would be untouchable... every team has had off weekends... In melborne Ferrari coudnt get thier car into window in addition to thier slow speed corner issues.. in bahrain Mercs and Redbulls had the same window issue...
Setting up the cars have been anything less of a ma-moth job.. so if ferrari can get it right... set-up wise.. i see them disappearing in the distance with Mercs in the trailing them by atleast 0.2 to 0.3 in quali and a health 20sec in race.
Fingers crossed..

Some Optimism plz....
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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by z.topoln » Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:52 am

Still, better to be optimistic than not... Look how broken McLaren fans were last few years... Atleast Ferrari is still up there, near the top.

I think merc will take this race, ferrari might bring updates but you always needa race or two to make setup around them work, so i guess around barcelona ferrari might start a fightback.

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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by Vasconia » Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:56 am

We don´t know difficult is to sort out Ferrari´s problems with slow/medium corners, I hope this update can solve them, another 1-2 for Mercedes would be terrible for the competition.

I do hope too that Carlos can finally have some luck an score some points as his performance has been great so far.

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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by etusch » Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:38 am

They got it wrong fighting in F1

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Re: 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, April 26-28

Post by JonoNic » Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:25 pm

Mercedes' performance this year just proves how well Red Bull would have done if they had that Mercedes PU in there since 2015.

This year's Mercedes team has the traditional strengths of a Red Bull in previous seasons, that is aero and traction out of low speed corners.
Always find the gap then use it.