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Honda Flexy Wing for Monza
Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 21:05
by i70q7m7ghw
Check it out, looks like a very low downforce design for Monza... Looking at the way to upper element is connected to the endplates it looks like it might be designed to flex.
What do you think?
Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 21:11
by Sawtooth-spike
i would be suprized if they did after nick fry (i think) saying that they would never do that.
But monza is the place to use ur flexy wing.
Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 21:58
by JimmyK
Didn't Honda say that they had a flexy wing prepared that they would use once the rules were cleared up and if Ferrari still used them or smth?
Re: Honda Flexy Wing for Monza
Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 23:12
by zac510
Diesel wrote:Looking at the way to upper element is connected to the endplates it looks like it might be designed to flex.
How can you tell that? The photo is tiny?
Posted: 14 Jun 2006, 23:18
by i70q7m7ghw
The endplate now features a cut out below the upper element, also look at the way they have painted the upper element, actually painting onto the endplate as well, why would they do that?
Posted: 15 Jun 2006, 10:25
by scarbs
The endplate and flap are combined like with the Renault design.
Just as with Renault if its designed to flex then they are beign a bit blatant about it. I beleive the shaping is more to do with flow management to reduce tip vortices shed from the flap\endplate junction.
Posted: 15 Jun 2006, 18:45
by Str8up
Would the gurney flap help in the twisting moment to reduce the deflection of the wing?
Posted: 15 Jun 2006, 18:56
by Str8up
Posted: 15 Jun 2006, 19:06
by i70q7m7ghw
That wing just gets more and more intersting, look at either end of the upper element, is that some sort of flap or additional element?
Posted: 16 Jun 2006, 03:12
by manchild
FIA suggests "slot-gap separator" which can't prevent flexing of whole rear wing asembly as we already mentioned here as possibility.

Posted: 16 Jun 2006, 03:45
by joseff
Just pointing out the obvious, they seem to be testing TWO different wing designs in those 3 pics.
Also interesting how the leading edge of the wing seems to be so high, and it droops away in the middle.
Posted: 17 Jun 2006, 17:49
by Str8up
Adding to Joseff comments, the same thing with the rear wing (most notably on the Toyota & Williams')
I was wondering if they are using a bit of "divergent duct" theory here (decrease speed & increase pressure) to create a greater pressure differential between the surfaces of the wing?
Also if there was a bit of downwash from the wing(s) & camera ontop on the air intake requiring an alteration to the AoA?
If anyone had a CFD graphic, tat would be great.
Cheers.
Posted: 18 Jun 2006, 15:04
by i70q7m7ghw
Are you talking about the overall spoon curve of the wing? or the way the lower element forms a sort of shallow U profile from the side? BMWs wing probably shows it best...
Here you can see the high front edge. You can see the underside of the wing which shows how its sort of bucket shaped...
Posted: 18 Jun 2006, 22:36
by PNSD
High nose up wings.... less drag.
Posted: 19 Jun 2006, 18:03
by Spencifer_Murphy
Is it me or does the trailing edge on the flap of the Rear Wing on that pic of the BMW (breath lol) look as it if ends lower down on the endplate than usual???
...if u get what I mean. Sorry I cnt really think of a way to put it better.