Red Bull RB16

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Juzh wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:07 pm
TBH when we were onboard with max like 10 minutes ago the car seemed a bit loose on the rear. It turned well enough but rear wasn't having it. Verstappen was doing corrections all the time. He was on the some sort of long run on hard tires though, which might not be firing up in the cold. Not sure what to think.
Probably getting used to the new suspension setup. There should be very little centering force due to the negative caster and rear wheel steering effect. Perhaps it's a very fast car in the low and medium corners but tricky to be fast in the really high speed stuff.
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Finally a good booty shot.
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godlameroso wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:14 pm
Juzh wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:07 pm
TBH when we were onboard with max like 10 minutes ago the car seemed a bit loose on the rear. It turned well enough but rear wasn't having it. Verstappen was doing corrections all the time. He was on the some sort of long run on hard tires though, which might not be firing up in the cold. Not sure what to think.
Probably getting used to the new suspension setup. There should be very little centering force due to the negative caster and rear wheel steering effect. Perhaps it's a very fast car in the low and medium corners but tricky to be fast in the really high speed stuff.
There was another onboard few minutes ago and again the car was completely sideways, and when it wasn't it was understeering off the track or just barely staying on it.

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Juzh wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:07 pm
TBH when we were onboard with max like 10 minutes ago the car seemed a bit loose on the rear. It turned well enough but rear wasn't having it. Verstappen was doing corrections all the time. He was on some sort of long run on hard tires though, which might not be firing up in the cold. Not sure what to think.
Didn't see him do lots of corrections while watching in the office, but he is sawing very often to explore the grip limits.
But I think they need to fix the rear wing flap. With DRS activated it seems to flutter on the straights.

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Reliability seems good for everyone so far.
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First look at the front suspension internals:
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And now I see the track rod in in plain site. I guess it was blocked by the big fat upper wishbone in all the shots I'de seen. :oops:
But just suppose it weren't hypothetical.

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Anyone else notice that duct that's under where the lower wishbone connects to the chassis?
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I noticed it, but haven't figured what it is yet. S-duct inlet?
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I love what they've done to develop that nose and front section further compared to last year. Look at the shape of it and imagine where the air goes. Air attaches to the sides of the nose section which they've narrowed the profile of greatly compared to last year, the bodywork gently expands out and directs and likely accelerates it into the ducts. The nose duct is a great example of getting as much out of an element as possible. It's not just some dumb lump of carbon fibre that air hits.

Most teams have moved in a Mercedes type direction, but it's the details. Simple, simple stuff, nothing complicated, but it's details like that that set Newey's cars apart. You contrast that with the Ferrari and they just don't seem to have moved on.
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Beautiful detail of the rear brake ducts. You can see how they are channeling the air through this area. Interesting.

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Just_a_fan wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 2:02 pm
I noticed it, but haven't figured what it is yet. S-duct inlet?
Based on the first bulkhead picture, you can see part of the duct a good bit forward of those inlets. I'd guess they are for driver cooling and the front nose coin slots feed the S duct.
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Juzh wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:31 pm
godlameroso wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:14 pm
Juzh wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:07 pm
TBH when we were onboard with max like 10 minutes ago the car seemed a bit loose on the rear. It turned well enough but rear wasn't having it. Verstappen was doing corrections all the time. He was on the some sort of long run on hard tires though, which might not be firing up in the cold. Not sure what to think.
Probably getting used to the new suspension setup. There should be very little centering force due to the negative caster and rear wheel steering effect. Perhaps it's a very fast car in the low and medium corners but tricky to be fast in the really high speed stuff.
There was another onboard few minutes ago and again the car was completely sideways, and when it wasn't it was understeering off the track or just barely staying on it.
He just spun apparently, rear breaking out.