Mercedes W11

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The floor:
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Edit: compared to last years (I think)
source: viewtopic.php?p=942169#p942169
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lio007 wrote:
Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:19 pm
The floor:
https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... tail-1.jpg

Edit: compared to last years (I think)
source: viewtopic.php?p=942169#p942169
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Mercedes has a new steering wheel the shape is different at the top
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DarthPlagueisTheVise wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:34 pm
Mercedes has a new steering wheel the shape is different at the top
Possibly they went with an earlier design that George found more comfortable or on which he prefered the switch layout.
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Just_a_fan wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:40 pm
DarthPlagueisTheVise wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:34 pm
Mercedes has a new steering wheel the shape is different at the top
Possibly they went with an earlier design that George found more comfortable or on which he prefered the switch layout.
Valtteri was the one using it though
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DarthPlagueisTheVise wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:41 pm
Just_a_fan wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:40 pm
DarthPlagueisTheVise wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:34 pm
Mercedes has a new steering wheel the shape is different at the top
Possibly they went with an earlier design that George found more comfortable or on which he prefered the switch layout.
Valtteri was the one using it though
Ah, I thought you were commenting on the photo of Russell. Sorry.
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DarthPlagueisTheVise wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:41 pm
Just_a_fan wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:40 pm
DarthPlagueisTheVise wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:34 pm
Mercedes has a new steering wheel the shape is different at the top
Possibly they went with an earlier design that George found more comfortable or on which he prefered the switch layout.
Valtteri was the one using it though
George was running DAS, Valterri was not (today).
Controversy does not have a short memory.

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I'm too lazy to upload pictures, but just wanted to point out that today on VB's pole lap, on the middle section of his dash, underneath the gear and the Strat setting (which is purple for qualifying, Strat 2), it was showing him the current state state of ERS deployment. I think that box used to be allocated for the actual HPP mode (it's the one that would change when they were pressing the OT button in race trim or when they were using Strat 2 in Q2 with medium tires but no party mode yet).
Anyways, you can see the exact moment when it switches from presumably free load (purple) to H-to-K (blue) to no-deployment (white) during each phase of the acceleration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKJ8e15a2yw&t=35s

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Interesting to see VB has switched to a single clutch paddle LH has been using all season. He had been using the double paddle system until recently.

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I've just read an article from "The Race" regarding Russel's struggles to keep pace with Valtteri at turn one, and I found this part really interesting: "It did it (creating more downforce volume between the tires and the diffuser) by mounting the lower leg of the rear wishbone into the crash structure, rather than the gearbox ahead of it. This allowed the whole suspension to be swept back. It was a massive engineering challenge. What that gave was a car with rear tires that would no longer be overwhelmed by a super-positive front end set-up. The car could be hustled into slow corners, late and positive on turn-in, without the rear becoming upset."
Apart from the fact that it's not something newly discovered, with the expression "super positive front end set-up", what do they precisely mean?

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GioKer32 wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:41 am
I've just read an article from "The Race" regarding Russel's struggles to keep pace with Valtteri at turn one, and I found this part really interesting: "It did it (creating more downforce volume between the tires and the diffuser) by mounting the lower leg of the rear wishbone into the crash structure, rather than the gearbox ahead of it. This allowed the whole suspension to be swept back. It was a massive engineering challenge. What that gave was a car with rear tires that would no longer be overwhelmed by a super-positive front end set-up. The car could be hustled into slow corners, late and positive on turn-in, without the rear becoming upset."
Apart from the fact that it's not something newly discovered, with the expression "super positive front end set-up", what do they precisely mean?
Lots of front-end mechanical grip, lots of steering.
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ScrewCaptain27 wrote:
Wed Dec 09, 2020 8:42 am
Lots of front-end mechanical grip, lots of steering.
This also explains why last year's Merc was so good at low-speed corners but a bit "lazy" at the exit of them, doesn't it? :?:
Although, at present, it seems to have been brilliantly solved.

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DarthPlagueisTheVise wrote:
Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:34 pm
Mercedes has a new steering wheel the shape is different at the top
Any word of Mercedes trialing this wheel again today?