Manoah2u wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:55 pm
I'm sure that RBR will put everything into getting that Honda engine (for 2021) in their own posession. They were focusing on 2022 with Honda to 'really' have a go at it,
and i don't believe they'll let Honda's departure take that away from them. Since they're not getting Merc power, and Ferrari power isn't gonna be doing them much good either,
it'll leave Renault power vs 'own' power. Renault still aims more to their 'own' success, so they'd only be handing out 'contractual obligations' instead of an actual partnership.
So the only thing out on the table is 'own' power, and that is obviously 'simply' buying the Honda engine, and the entire Honda F1 engine project, and take it from Honda's hands.
There has been suggestions that AVL in Graz has the potential to fill in the gaps that RedBull is 'missing' themselves, a tech company that already greatly partners RedBull in other areas.
Interestingly, they could find themselves taking over Honda's engineers work, and hire some of those engineers, and implement 'european' ways of working with things. I don't know if that's positive or negative, but i remember atleast at a certain point that between Mclaren and Honda, there were some 'struggles' in their partnership due to the nature of how Japanese business works, or conducts business. Whether there was ever ANY truth to that, i am not aware of, and if that ever occurred between RBR and Honda to me is doubtfull, but IF true, then taking the Honda knowledge in-house, could be the most interesting and positive twist to come from all of this.
It'll turn RedBull into a FULL works team, fully independant, and build an interesting business model for other racing classes to with the way they might learn, develop, and use the V6TH from Honda, and adapt it into their own neccesities.
I am also pretty certain that part of whether Marko and Co will go for this route will depend on whether they are able to - NOW - convince the FIA / F1 group, to KEEP the V6T hybrid formula after 2026. Perhaps with some elements to play with, but not switch to for example 4-cylinder engines, as i'm really wondering whether the investment for 4 years of a 'honda ripoff' (to put it bluntly) is worth the investment if they're going to be forced to do it all over again from scratch with a 4 cylinder. Then again, perhaps they can convince Porsche to build a 4 cyl.
Still, if they do go the route of 'buying' the engine, then i'm expecting much more of RB involvement for 2021 in regards to the engine, and see the engine develop further and further right untill the final race in 2021. I'd also expect a good deal of Honda exposure, and lots of public thanks to Honda as a form of exchange, so they can 'buy' the engine at a 'discount' so to speak.