Dee wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 24, 2021 4:06 pm
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Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:51 pm
Dee wrote: ↑
Fri Sep 24, 2021 3:42 pm
You can believe what you want to believe, Fact is Lewis gave him enough space to go for an overtake, then Lewis closed the door after Max was passed the runoff and it put him up on to the curves which put them both out. Max did not act differently in that overtake vs others he has done in that corner since he started F1, as can be seen on Palmers analysis. He had the space, he went for it. He got the penalty because he was the one overtaking and there was a crash.
Palmer’s analysis shows HAM gave a similar amount of room LEC gave GIO on the opening lap. The difference is VER came in hotter, went wider as a result and couldn’t rotate his car sufficiently for the 2nd part of the chicane in order to avoid the worst of the curbs.
All of this doesn’t even address the meat of the stewards report being VER was too far back into the corner and had not ‘established’ an overtake on approach.
Max did not go wider than GIO, GIO had less space then Verstappen. If the stewards want to play with words (never heard of "had not established an overtake on approach" before when max had more space than GIO for the overtake, then so be it. If the higher speed caused less rotation to avoid the curbs, then that's what happened. But it wasn't intentional contact or an overtake that was not on. More and more a racing incident where the curbs were the defining factor and nothing that either driver did.
If there is no space to go and you are outside to over take then it is your (max) responsibility not to crash.
Hamilton did calculated move as he did it in Silverstone i.e. dummy move to left and overtook Max in right.
Max is not learning how to read other drivers move in advance so that he can plan for it.
Example: Hamilton vs Alsonso hot fight in 2007 but no crash in track. They know each other move very well.
In my point of view, Max decided, if I am not winning you also attitude.
You will see same in Sochi... may be with Lecrec.