He doesn't need to win, he just needs to finish with one point more than Max.siskue2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:26 amThat will put him 4.5 points ahead, still he will need to win the next race
But all will be good the next race.
He doesn't need to win, he just needs to finish with one point more than Max.siskue2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:26 amThat will put him 4.5 points ahead, still he will need to win the next race
But all will be good the next race.
He doesn't need to win, he just needs to finish with one point more than Max.siskue2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:26 amThat will put him 4.5 points ahead, still he will need to win the next race
But all will be good the next race.
No, it would put him 9 points ahead.siskue2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:26 amThat will put him 4.5 points ahead, still he will need to win the next race
But all will be good the next race.
+ imagine if Max got DSQ'ed on last Sunday. That would have been the championshipNathanOlder wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:50 amNo, it would put him 9 points ahead.siskue2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:26 amThat will put him 4.5 points ahead, still he will need to win the next race
But all will be good the next race.
he lost 5 points to Max in Belgium
he would gain 3 points in Brazil
Max would lose 1 point in Brazil.
Christian Horner: "They changed the layout (Abu Dhabi) and unfortunately the engine speed that Hamilton has is unraceable. I mean he was a second quicker (Jeddah S2 / S3), Max would pull half a second by T13. You can’t defend against that."
https://open.spotify.com/episode/3NFMQBiNDtEHpocUqnH60y
Build a better car then christian. Or work with a better PU. dont burn all the bridges with people and then maybe they will be happy to work with youpursue_one's wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:47 amHere we go with Horner's whining...
Christian Horner: "They changed the layout (Abu Dhabi) and unfortunately the engine speed that Hamilton has is unraceable. I mean he was a second quicker (Jeddah S2 / S3), Max would pull half a second by T13. You can’t defend against that."
https://open.spotify.com/episode/3NFMQBiNDtEHpocUqnH60y
And in Silverstone HAM gained 32 points.WaikeCU wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:33 am+ imagine if Max got DSQ'ed on last Sunday. That would have been the championshipNathanOlder wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:50 amNo, it would put him 9 points ahead.siskue2005 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:26 am
That will put him 4.5 points ahead, still he will need to win the next race
But all will be good the next race.
he lost 5 points to Max in Belgium
he would gain 3 points in Brazil
Max would lose 1 point in Brazil.
Yes but it is understandable that RB and VER are very bitter to have lose this year, it was the ONLY chance for them, Honda gave everything for 2021, as well as RB and VER.NathanOlder wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:12 amBuild a better car then christian. Or work with a better PU. dont burn all the bridges with people and then maybe they will be happy to work with youpursue_one's wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:47 amHere we go with Horner's whining...
Christian Horner: "They changed the layout (Abu Dhabi) and unfortunately the engine speed that Hamilton has is unraceable. I mean he was a second quicker (Jeddah S2 / S3), Max would pull half a second by T13. You can’t defend against that."
https://open.spotify.com/episode/3NFMQBiNDtEHpocUqnH60y
Maybe the reason they are so bitter, is because RB thought they had Merc on the ropes, so they shifted development focus to this season knowing there's 2 Championships they can win. But now reality hits (since Brazil) that Merc has an even more powerful car than pre-Brazil and that worries RB actually that this season is slipping away. The chance this season goes begging and they might not have a dominant car yet next season, just because of the main focus on this season.Jambier wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:16 amYes but it is understandable that RB and VER are very bitter to have lose this year, it was the ONLY chance for them, Honda gave everything for 2021, as well as RB and VER.NathanOlder wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:12 amBuild a better car then christian. Or work with a better PU. dont burn all the bridges with people and then maybe they will be happy to work with you
And at the end, this is still not enough, Merc/Ham domination still unbeaten.
Now 2022 should change that, but I don't see RB in the mix for victory next year
Yes I totally agree, but Red Bull was really "light" on comitement thinking that the best team since 8 years will just no fighting.WaikeCU wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:19 amMaybe the reason they are so bitter, is because RB thought they had Merc on the ropes, so they shifted development focus to this season knowing there's 2 Championships they can win. But now reality hits (since Brazil) that Merc has an even more powerful car than pre-Brazil and that worries RB actually that this season is slipping away. The chance this season goes begging and they might not have a dominant car yet next season, just because of the main focus on this season.Jambier wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:16 amYes but it is understandable that RB and VER are very bitter to have lose this year, it was the ONLY chance for them, Honda gave everything for 2021, as well as RB and VER.NathanOlder wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:12 am
Build a better car then christian. Or work with a better PU. dont burn all the bridges with people and then maybe they will be happy to work with you
And at the end, this is still not enough, Merc/Ham domination still unbeaten.
Now 2022 should change that, but I don't see RB in the mix for victory next year
Hence the Toto talk or Lewis talk that they haven't done much on the car update wise, while they still point at RB having improved their car each time and the lack of updates are really hurting themJambier wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:23 amYes I totally agree, but Red Bull was really "light" on comitement thinking that the best team since 8 years will just no fighting.WaikeCU wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:19 amMaybe the reason they are so bitter, is because RB thought they had Merc on the ropes, so they shifted development focus to this season knowing there's 2 Championships they can win. But now reality hits (since Brazil) that Merc has an even more powerful car than pre-Brazil and that worries RB actually that this season is slipping away. The chance this season goes begging and they might not have a dominant car yet next season, just because of the main focus on this season.Jambier wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:16 am
Yes but it is understandable that RB and VER are very bitter to have lose this year, it was the ONLY chance for them, Honda gave everything for 2021, as well as RB and VER.
And at the end, this is still not enough, Merc/Ham domination still unbeaten.
Now 2022 should change that, but I don't see RB in the mix for victory next year
- Yes RB was a bit better at the start
- They should have known that Mercedes will fight back, improve, and push really hard
Even with the Silverstone situation aside, if the Red Bull was good enough in the end of the championship VER would have been able to fight with Mercedes.
This is not the case, and they probably know that HONDA will not have pushed as hard for 2022 as they are retiring.
He's just doing what Wolff's detractors always accuse him of. Playing down their chances. His claims of straight line speed disparity have been analysed and deconstructed by more than one person since Brazil, haven't they?Tvetovnato wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:35 am
Soo Christian… it wasn’t because of a flexing wing after all? All the time spent with the FIA to ban something that wasn’t even there must hurt now.
And all of a sudden if Max wins, it's not the car. It's all Max.El Scorchio wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:40 amHe's just doing what Wolff's detractors always accuse him of. Playing down their chances. His claims of straight line speed disparity have been analysed and deconstructed by more than one person since Brazil, haven't they?Tvetovnato wrote: ↑Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:35 am
Soo Christian… it wasn’t because of a flexing wing after all? All the time spent with the FIA to ban something that wasn’t even there must hurt now.