2021 Ferrari F1 Team

[Jolle]

From the outside it looked also like a result of tension between PMI (Arrivabene) and Ferrari (Binotto), possibly going back to the Alonso days with Dominecale. All those resources, best drivers on the grid and still no succes. After that Ferrari America with sunglasses they pushed forward their guy, Arri. Somehow the powers switched again, with Binotto (an engineer), no worldchampion in the seat. Very unlike PMI. They always had a real manager at the wheel (Ron Dennis, Jean Todt, etc). Maybe Binotto has a natural talent for managing several big departments with a total of 1000 people, but my guess is there are better people for that. People like Horner, Brown, Wolff.

[NathanOlder]

I think Arrivabene was sacked because he called out Binotto for engine cheating at Ferrari, and 2020 was the retribution from the FIA. Almost like Arrivabene told them where to look.

We will never know for sure.

The plot for the best racing movie ever! But who would we cast

Arri - Samuel L Jackson

Bino - Howard Stern

Vet cameos as himself.

For me

Arri - Robert de Niro

Bino - Will Farrell with a lot of hair dye.

[Vasconia]

The 2020 debacle was caused by the Marlboro man cheating in 2018 and 19.

That's why they sacked him in the 1st place.

Ferrari builds the car not the Tifosi, let's keep it that way.

Sacking Binotto is a bad move at this time.

*edit
Apparently if they do sack him, he'll be representing Ferrari in the WMSC. So other teams can't poach him.

Sacking Binotto would be a great mistake, though I consider that he should be the technical responsible of the team, not the team leader. I think Ferrari needs another type of person in that role.

[Simone Ferrari]

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[Manoah2u]

Sacking Binotto would be as great a 'mistake' as sacking Abiteboul or Kaltenborn.

Binotto has been nothing but bad for Ferrari ever since he got power to his mind and then given in his hands. Ferrari was growing and becoming stronger under Arrivabene, not under Binotto. Binotto got a lot of credit for his 'tech' expertise, but it's still rather a question whether that's all binotto or much more a case of Ferrari personel being uplifted by Arrivabene's way of working and improving the team. Then internal struggles began to rise, and then it came to the surface between Binotto and Arrivabene. Arrivabene got ditched and then Binotto felt king and all mighty, and single-handedly ruined all that Arrivabene raised the past few years.

Binotto must be send off for Ferrari to rise again. As long as that doesn't happen, Ferrari will remain with their hand tied behind their backs.

What could happen, is that if Alpine turns out to grow to a WDC/WCC competitor soon, under the helm of a capable 'mr Suzuki', then we could see a sudden full-reorganisation @ Ferrari in 2023/2024 where Ferrari snatches Davide Brivio, a bunch of other capable non-ferrari people, and take aboard Mick Schumacher (if he's any good though), and try to recreate the former glory path, coming to senses that they need OUTSIDE capability. It seems Ferrari's structure is self-suffocating and preventing progress and success.

[JordanMugen]

https://www.planetf1.com/news/ferrari-t ... jE5ym4Vx60

The report from Formu1a.uno says that “after the questionable orange-red of the SF90 [2019 car] and the red that was more faithful to the tradition of the SF1000, the new SF21 will have a double shade of tone while remaining opaque and with a red that will become, from the bottom up, tending to a darker red similar to GP Mugello 1000”.

Might be a case of take with a grain of salt, but could be in for somewhat a surprise with the livery at least...

Just put it back to Rosso Corsa. It's not difficult. While gloss paint may add a little weight, it offers a nice look.



Bonus marks for gold wheels.

PS. I think the darkness of Rosso Corsa is often overstated by fans, it's not that dark of a colour, and varies depending on lighting.

[aMessageToCharlie]

Agree. Why re-invent the wheel, when you have the most loved and iconic color in all of motorsport and in the automobile industry as a whole? Makes no sense whatsoever.

Instead they come up with this and make their car look like a burgundy oxford shoe.

[Schippke]

Just put it back to Rosso Corsa. It's not difficult. While gloss paint may add a little weight, it offers a nice look.

https://talacrest.com/news_images/120914.jpg

Bonus marks for gold wheels.

I'd LOVE to see that again; Just the traditional Rosso Corsa gloss with Gold Wheels would look amazing... but that's unlikely for the foreseeable future (the gold wheels especially! ).

[Macklaren]

Just put it back to Rosso Corsa. It's not difficult. While gloss paint may add a little weight, it offers a nice look.

https://talacrest.com/news_images/120914.jpg

Bonus marks for gold wheels.

I'd LOVE to see that again; Just the traditional Rosso Corsa gloss with Gold Wheels would look amazing... but that's unlikely for the foreseeable future (the gold wheels especially! ).

With the new 18" wheels in 2022, I expect to see teams dress up their rims again! (AT with its white wheels this season is off to a good start)

[Partymood]

I think Arrivabene was sacked because he called out Binotto for engine cheating at Ferrari, and 2020 was the retribution from the FIA. Almost like Arrivabene told them where to look.

We will never know for sure.

The plot for the best racing movie ever! But who would we cast

Arri - Samuel L Jackson

Bino - Howard Stern

Vet cameos as himself.

That would be the usual Hollywood BS then... with very little attention to factuality and an heavy handed American in print on the all story... No thanks

[Partymood]

Agree. Why re-invent the wheel, when you have the most loved and iconic color in all of motorsport and in the automobile industry as a whole? Makes no sense whatsoever.

Instead they come up with this and make their car look like a burgundy oxford shoe.

https://api.ferrarinetwork.ferrari.com/ ... height=430

https://dhb3yazwboecu.cloudfront.net/90 ... _910_m.jpg

You should know that that was the original colour with which they run, infact it was used to commemorate the 1000th GP entered.

[Zynerji]

Agree. Why re-invent the wheel, when you have the most loved and iconic color in all of motorsport and in the automobile industry as a whole? Makes no sense whatsoever.

Instead they come up with this and make their car look like a burgundy oxford shoe.

https://api.ferrarinetwork.ferrari.com/ ... height=430

https://dhb3yazwboecu.cloudfront.net/90 ... _910_m.jpg

Cordovan!!

[JordanMugen]

You should know that that was the original colour with which they run, infact it was used to commemorate the 1000th GP entered.

True, but the Rosso Corsa colour is much better known.

but that's unlikely for the foreseeable future (the gold wheels especially! ).

IIRC, Toro Rosso were the last to race these (and now are racing equally lovely white wheels, albeit OZ and no longer Apptech). It seems curious that F1 teams are not more creative with the colours of their wheels -- all the others seem to be silver, anthracite or black (how dull ).

The Toro Rosso:

https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/Detai ... ric-vergne

PS. Anyone fancy a F1 car project with Cosworth engine and Ferrari gearbox? Worth so much less because of the lowly badge "Toro Rosso" and not "Ferrari".

[Sevach]

Iwould love it, wheel covers will be coming back in 22, give exposed rims a nice send off.

[El Scorchio]

Sacking Binotto would be as great a 'mistake' as sacking Abiteboul or Kaltenborn.

Binotto has been nothing but bad for Ferrari ever since he got power to his mind and then given in his hands. Ferrari was growing and becoming stronger under Arrivabene, not under Binotto. Binotto got a lot of credit for his 'tech' expertise, but it's still rather a question whether that's all binotto or much more a case of Ferrari personel being uplifted by Arrivabene's way of working and improving the team. Then internal struggles began to rise, and then it came to the surface between Binotto and Arrivabene. Arrivabene got ditched and then Binotto felt king and all mighty, and single-handedly ruined all that Arrivabene raised the past few years.

Binotto must be send off for Ferrari to rise again. As long as that doesn't happen, Ferrari will remain with their hand tied behind their backs.

What could happen, is that if Alpine turns out to grow to a WDC/WCC competitor soon, under the helm of a capable 'mr Suzuki', then we could see a sudden full-reorganisation @ Ferrari in 2023/2024 where Ferrari snatches Davide Brivio, a bunch of other capable non-ferrari people, and take aboard Mick Schumacher (if he's any good though), and try to recreate the former glory path, coming to senses that they need OUTSIDE capability. It seems Ferrari's structure is self-suffocating and preventing progress and success.

I agree. Binotto doesn't seem like a leader of men to me. He's clearly a great technical mind, but that doesn't mean he makes a good team principal. Horner and Wolff whatever you think of them are leaders and politicians. Also excellent shields for the like likes of Allison and Newey and teams, who just concentrate on the cars and leave the bull**** to the politicians. it's a waste having Binotto doing all that rather than just concentrating on building fast cars.