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zibby43 wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:05 pm
atanatizante wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:13 pm
zibby43 wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 7:18 pm


Seconded.

I would’ve thought the next PU would come in Monza given PU2 was introduced in France.
There is a blog dedicated to F1 in my country which has delivered these speculations/rumours and I'm inclined to believe them based on the facts that : 1. usually Merc is changing to a new spec PU in Spa due to having to run the toughest 2 races on the entire calendar (Spa and Monza) and 2. by the fact that they didn`t release any oil&fuel upgrade this year, that I'm aware of ...
Thanks for sharing. Does this blog have a good reputation for being accurate, in your estimation?
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Spa:

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Note they’re initially opting for a very trimmed out RW. Much broader range of setup options available on the car now compared to say, Austria, where they had to run a comically huge RW to get the car and tires to generate enough rear downforce to work.

Looks like there’s no gurney tab on the upper RW flap, either. Something that Hamilton ran without at Silverstone.

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zibby43 wrote:
Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:07 pm
Spa:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9uMnlBVcBI ... name=large

Note they’re initially opting for a very trimmed out RW. Much broader range of setup options available on the car now compared to say, Austria, where they had to run a comically huge RW to get the car and tires to generate enough rear downforce to work.

Looks like there’s no gurney tab on the upper RW flap, either. Something that Hamilton ran without at Silverstone.
Any pics of Bottas' car? With the low track temps all weekend Mercedes may choose to run opposing rear wings on both cars. Cold graining may be a concern for the long runs.

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b2bL44 wrote:
Fri Aug 27, 2021 2:17 am
zibby43 wrote:
Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:07 pm
Spa:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9uMnlBVcBI ... name=large

Note they’re initially opting for a very trimmed out RW. Much broader range of setup options available on the car now compared to say, Austria, where they had to run a comically huge RW to get the car and tires to generate enough rear downforce to work.

Looks like there’s no gurney tab on the upper RW flap, either. Something that Hamilton ran without at Silverstone.
Any pics of Bottas' car? With the low track temps all weekend Mercedes may choose to run opposing rear wings on both cars. Cold graining may be a concern for the long runs.
Not yet, but that's an excellent point. His car is hiding in the background in the photo above; impossible to tell the wing level though.

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Any news on the Zandvoort upgrade they were talking about earlier?

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rickybobbyf1 wrote:
Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:29 pm
Any news on the Zandvoort upgrade they were talking about earlier?
They are putting a roof on.
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Big Tea wrote:
Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:33 pm
rickybobbyf1 wrote:
Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:29 pm
Any news on the Zandvoort upgrade they were talking about earlier?
They are putting a roof on.
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It was rumored that they'd be bringing some upgrades for Zandvoort? Seen anything new yet?
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F1Krof wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 11:14 am
It was rumored that they'd be bringing some upgrades for Zandvoort? Seen anything new yet?
Didn't find anything except these photos which shows flow-viz on the car
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According to Motorsport.com : " Mercedes applied flow-viz paint to the lower wishbone at the front of Lewis Hamilton's car during FP1 in order to make sure the airflow over and under the aerodynamic fairing was acting as they anticipated. "

Is this lower wishbone fairing a new update for this race?
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atanatizante wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 6:08 pm
Is this lower wishbone fairing a new update for this race?
It can't be new per the technical regulations.

see page 127
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files ... -06-28.pdf
  • Component - Front Suspension Members
  • Freeze Date - R1-2021
  • Included Components - Wishbones / Links, Track-rod, Push/pull Rod, Bearings, Inboard Brackets not integrated in the survival cell, Fasteners, Wheel Tethers, local electrical and electronic components
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Flow viz applied to the front wishbone might not be about the front wishbone. Flow viz here will impact the car further back and so confirm/otherwise where flow is going.
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