Ferrari F1-75

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nico5 wrote:
15 Jun 2022, 14:06
organic wrote:
15 Jun 2022, 12:15
nico5 wrote:
15 Jun 2022, 10:15


That's Leclerc's car and it's engine oil, not hydraulic fluid. From the onboard, you could already see it spilling oil on the ground in the pitlane near the FIA weighbridge, then for some reason team staff pushed the car back and outside the pitlane grounds instead of forward into the garage. So yeah, that's where it was left til after the race.
Sam Collins said it was Sainz's car in this video:

https://youtu.be/eYyBotwkSLI

Obviously he's not the most reliable in the world, but he was in the pitlane and probably kept tabs on what was going on.
Yeah no, I like him too but he probably just assumed it was Sainz's since it was covered and parked not far away from T4 where Sainz's was.
This is the car in the pitlane with oil marks:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/9700/CmezyY.png
And this is afterwards near the BMW with the parc ferme area in sight. You can see the mechanic carrying the red cover for the car:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5519/jq2xVG.png
That is to say that Sainz's was either an hydraulic issue or something with the gearbox, which was my thought from the noise it made as he stopped. Nothing to do with engine tho.
Thank you for the in depth clarification!

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thanks indeed! It should really not take this much work to refute a Collins remark, his technical analysis is usually filled with gaps, wrong information and go nowhere lines of talk (pretty much what I can achieve myself). I stopped watching those long ago. He needs to up his game, it's a job, not a hobby (like for most of us here).

It made sense it was Charles' car as that did reach the pitlane. Sainz' would have been to the side of the track with no way to reach the pit during the race in a place like Baku.

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organic wrote:
15 Jun 2022, 14:29
nico5 wrote:
15 Jun 2022, 14:06
organic wrote:
15 Jun 2022, 12:15


Sam Collins said it was Sainz's car in this video:

https://youtu.be/eYyBotwkSLI

Obviously he's not the most reliable in the world, but he was in the pitlane and probably kept tabs on what was going on.
Yeah no, I like him too but he probably just assumed it was Sainz's since it was covered and parked not far away from T4 where Sainz's was.
This is the car in the pitlane with oil marks:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/9700/CmezyY.png
And this is afterwards near the BMW with the parc ferme area in sight. You can see the mechanic carrying the red cover for the car:
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5519/jq2xVG.png
That is to say that Sainz's was either an hydraulic issue or something with the gearbox, which was my thought from the noise it made as he stopped. Nothing to do with engine tho.
Thank you for the in depth clarification!
No worries, I think Collins' wasn't meant as an in depth analysis, just as a general talk on Ferrari, but obviously if you wanna draw some hypothesis on the issues from the images it is useful to know anyways.

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What are those wires for?
I assume there a hole at the tip for the NACA duct?

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My best guess would be that they connect inside front wing elements and go to the sensors, either the one circled in red or the one on the endplate where aws logo is

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Anyone have any guesses as to how the new anti-porpoising rules would affect Ferrari? It’s clear porpoising is severe on the F1-75. I’ve seen mixed things on twitter - people suggesting that Ferrari has more wiggle room with respect to ride height than, say, Mercedes. That much is clear, but I think this must heavily favour redbull given we have barely if ever seen their car bounce.

Good for drivers and safety and at the end of the day we can’t really have an issue with that, but…. Dark times for Ferrari and the F1-75?? I hope not.

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Ferrari: same floor but with different direction of the fibers
https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-fe ... content=it

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It must stiffen the floor

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Spacepace wrote:
17 Jun 2022, 02:03
It must stiffen the floor
Would it be just one more layer? It would cross the other naturally wouldn't it.
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I wonder if this is a “short term fix” for the hydraulic issues, presuming they were caused by excess bouncing? Obviously a sticker floor costs them weight but could be helpful timing if it reduces the need to lift the car to align with the new tech directive.

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Nice pictures. But arent they both twill weave?
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ryaan2904 wrote:
17 Jun 2022, 07:19
Nice pictures. But arent they both twill weave?
Yes, but it's the orientation of the weave that's changed now apparently. Not sure if that has relevant implications on how it flexes. If anything I would tend to think carbon flexes along the fibers rather than across so this might increase horizontal flex as opposed to longitudinal, but w shorter fibers so less anyways.

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nico5 wrote:
15 Jun 2022, 10:15
That's Leclerc's car and it's engine oil, not hydraulic fluid. From the onboard, you could already see it spilling oil on the ground in the pitlane near the FIA weighbridge, then for some reason team staff pushed the car back and outside the pitlane grounds instead of forward into the garage. So yeah, that's where it was left til after the race.
Maybe because of all the gushing oil?

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