2022 Bahrain Grand Prix - Sakhir, March 18 - 20

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Re: 2022 Bahrain Grand Prix - Sakhir, March 18 - 20

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mzso wrote:
24 Mar 2022, 23:05
I wonder why they didn't stick with it when they knew it gave them a lot less drag.
It came with a hefty weight penalty, so on the more twisty circuits, they went for added lightness.

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Big Tea wrote:
24 Mar 2022, 16:57
You are right, I never considered that and always thought open wheels was in the rules. then again I thought 4 wheels was until i remember the tyroll
By the 1970's there were definitely rules excluding the placement of bodywork where the tyres are, not sure about the 1960's. One for AeroGandalf!

https://www.f1technical.net/features/23219

kalinka wrote:
24 Mar 2022, 11:07
As for the number ‘One’, it was added to recognize the championship as the premier category in motorsport.
That's just a coincidence, it was always called simply "Grand Prix" on British television. :)



The Grand Prize races are I guess considered the top category whether they count for the World Driver's Championship, or the European Driver's Championship before it. But not to say the non-championship or alternative championship Grands Prix were not without significant prestige too.

Brabham and McLaren seemed to place importance on the Tasman series for example:


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dialtone wrote:
21 Mar 2022, 04:12
These are the telemetry for one of the laps with VER passing LEC (18th lap):
https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/vv-d ... kingly.png

And this is a few laps later 24th lap:
https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/vv-d ... rainer.png

From there one can say that the slipstream + DRS is indeed still very powerful, in fact quite a lot, VER gets up to almost 327kmh while in a normal lap both would do 301kmh. While LEC instead of hanging around 300kmh chooses to stay in 7th gear and around 285kmh, in fact LEC scrubs off some more speed before the entry down to 282kmh. In video LEC seems to also leave some decent space inside the turn because he's setting himself up to pass VER again the following straight and build some gap in S2 and S3.

Another interesting bit happened at laps 45 and 51 (fastest lap for VER and fastest lap for LEC):
https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/vv-d ... onless.png

VER's lap was the lap right after his tyre change, LEC after the restart from SC.

It's interesting to see that while LEC is tapering off at end of straight, presumably energy recovery including his fastest lap, for most of the race laps that I checked VER was almost always as sharp as you see up in the graph. I don't know if that's a feature of the Honda engine of course, or they ran it really hard to try and pass, and how it accomplishes energy recovery, but it could be related to them running out of fuel. It's quite a difference in race mode however, it's IMHO cool that FER could still manage to do what they did while tapering off that much on their laps.
LEC really makes the lap up in T6/T7 which he takes full beans, as well as other faster corners like T12 where he simply carries a lot more speed. And this is fast lap on same condition tires for both of them, if anything LEC's tires were a bit colder after the laps behind SC.
"It's interesting to see that while LEC is tapering off at end of straight, presumably energy recovery including his fastest lap, for most of the race laps that I checked VER was almost always as sharp as you see up in the graph."

Did you also check with telemetry data of PER to see if he was also running sharp lines similar to VER?

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bagajohny wrote:
dialtone wrote:
21 Mar 2022, 04:12
These are the telemetry for one of the laps with VER passing LEC (18th lap):
https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/vv-d ... kingly.png

And this is a few laps later 24th lap:
https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/vv-d ... rainer.png

From there one can say that the slipstream + DRS is indeed still very powerful, in fact quite a lot, VER gets up to almost 327kmh while in a normal lap both would do 301kmh. While LEC instead of hanging around 300kmh chooses to stay in 7th gear and around 285kmh, in fact LEC scrubs off some more speed before the entry down to 282kmh. In video LEC seems to also leave some decent space inside the turn because he's setting himself up to pass VER again the following straight and build some gap in S2 and S3.

Another interesting bit happened at laps 45 and 51 (fastest lap for VER and fastest lap for LEC):
https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/vv-d ... onless.png

VER's lap was the lap right after his tyre change, LEC after the restart from SC.

It's interesting to see that while LEC is tapering off at end of straight, presumably energy recovery including his fastest lap, for most of the race laps that I checked VER was almost always as sharp as you see up in the graph. I don't know if that's a feature of the Honda engine of course, or they ran it really hard to try and pass, and how it accomplishes energy recovery, but it could be related to them running out of fuel. It's quite a difference in race mode however, it's IMHO cool that FER could still manage to do what they did while tapering off that much on their laps.
LEC really makes the lap up in T6/T7 which he takes full beans, as well as other faster corners like T12 where he simply carries a lot more speed. And this is fast lap on same condition tires for both of them, if anything LEC's tires were a bit colder after the laps behind SC.
"It's interesting to see that while LEC is tapering off at end of straight, presumably energy recovery including his fastest lap, for most of the race laps that I checked VER was almost always as sharp as you see up in the graph."

Did you also check with telemetry data of PER to see if he was also running sharp lines similar to VER?
That is a great question and I did not. Will do it next time I’m in front of my pc.