2022 Spanish Grand Prix - Catalunya, May 20 - 22

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silver
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I don't understand why people are getting overzealous on Hamilton's time difference to Verstappen in the race. A simple fact is, while Hamilton was pushing through, Verstappen was cruising at a delta of 1m26.xxx. He did that for 17 laps until the end. It was the same times he was doing on lap 32 with softs with half race fuel load. Once he took the lead, it was just managing the race. Most people doing analysis are missing this qualitative attribute. If Leclerc would have continued in the race, they would have ditched the whole field by a big margin racing each other under normal circumstances.


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chrisc90
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Understeery merc!

How far alongside do you have to be to have a claim on a corner these days? Sure I seen some rules/regs about it somewhere

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Guidelines for overtaking on the outside of a corner:

“In order for a car being overtaken to be required to give sufficient room to an overtaking car, the overtaking car needs to have a significant portion of the car alongside the car being overtaken and the overtaking manoeuvre must be done in a safe and controlled manner, while enabling the car to clearly remain within the limits of the track.

When considering what is a ‘significant portion’, for an overtaking on the outside of a corner, among the various factors that will be looked at by the stewards when exercising their discretion, the stewards will consider if the overtaking car is ahead of the other car from the apex of the corner. The car being overtaken must be capable of making the corner while remaining within the limits of the track.”


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Spoutnik
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Juzh wrote:
23 May 2022, 15:40
Anyone noticed just how slow cars looked this race? Seriously, they behaved like mules in S1 and S2 and were monstrously lazy in third sector over those high kerbs, I don't remember when I've last seen an f1 car so out of sorts on a track. Laptimes were on average around 5s slower than last year.
They're so sluggish in slow corner it's a disaster. Monaco will be very very weird to watch :mrgreen:

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Tvetovnato wrote:
22 May 2022, 19:21
etusch wrote:
22 May 2022, 19:13
We know it hurts that Hamilton nonetheless put in the best performance of all in the race together with Leclerc. But you will get over it I’m sure =D>
More like he blundered into the ideal three stop strategy thanks to Magnussen. Much like Verstappen.

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You say blundered and lucked into a three stop but you don’t luck into a 52 second deficit do you.

Looking at his pace he’d have been much better off if the strategy of starting on mediums hadn’t gone wrong. He’d of been offset to the others on faster softs and it could’ve worked out very well for him because of that given his pace.

Max may’ve had more pace in the bag but George did okay and it’s fair to say Lewis’ race pace was superior and when in equal situations has been for most of the season.

maxxer
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dialtone wrote:
23 May 2022, 16:51
Whoops merc stepped out mag tried to react

maxxer
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dialtone wrote:
23 May 2022, 16:51
Whoops merc stepped out mag tried to react

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maxxer wrote:
23 May 2022, 18:07
dialtone wrote:
23 May 2022, 16:51
Whoops merc stepped out mag tried to react
The merc doesnt step out at all, watchin lewis and kevina onboard, its kevin that looks to have a tiny snap and ocercorrects which puts him into lewis. Lewis onboard shows he doesnt change his steering angle at all

maxxer
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ringo wrote:
23 May 2022, 14:46
You also have to factor that George and Lewis had to slow considerably in the last couple laps because of coolant leaks.
So they stopped bouncing and now they get leaks?

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Mogster
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Spoutnik wrote:
23 May 2022, 17:15
Juzh wrote:
23 May 2022, 15:40
Anyone noticed just how slow cars looked this race? Seriously, they behaved like mules in S1 and S2 and were monstrously lazy in third sector over those high kerbs, I don't remember when I've last seen an f1 car so out of sorts on a track. Laptimes were on average around 5s slower than last year.
They're so sluggish in slow corner it's a disaster. Monaco will be very very weird to watch :mrgreen:
Jeez, they don’t look that slow.

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chrisc90
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Mchamilton wrote:
23 May 2022, 18:10
maxxer wrote:
23 May 2022, 18:07
dialtone wrote:
23 May 2022, 16:51
Whoops merc stepped out mag tried to react
The merc doesnt step out at all, watchin lewis and kevina onboard, its kevin that looks to have a tiny snap and ocercorrects which puts him into lewis. Lewis onboard shows he doesnt change his steering angle at all
Dont need to change steering angle to achieve understeer. Thats why its called understeer. You can quite clearly see Lewis's car move about a foot/12" away from the line he was taking around the corner

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wogx
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Another small but painful mistake by Lewis... :roll:
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maxxer
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chrisc90 wrote:
23 May 2022, 18:30
Mchamilton wrote:
23 May 2022, 18:10
maxxer wrote:
23 May 2022, 18:07

Whoops merc stepped out mag tried to react
The merc doesnt step out at all, watchin lewis and kevina onboard, its kevin that looks to have a tiny snap and ocercorrects which puts him into lewis. Lewis onboard shows he doesnt change his steering angle at all
Dont need to change steering angle to achieve understeer. Thats why its called understeer. You can quite clearly see Lewis's car move about a foot/12" away from the line he was taking around the corner
Thats what im seeing on this onboard to me it looks ham was in trouble in that corner and magnussen actually kept him on track :-)

maxxer
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Mogster wrote:
23 May 2022, 18:24
Spoutnik wrote:
23 May 2022, 17:15
Juzh wrote:
23 May 2022, 15:40
Anyone noticed just how slow cars looked this race? Seriously, they behaved like mules in S1 and S2 and were monstrously lazy in third sector over those high kerbs, I don't remember when I've last seen an f1 car so out of sorts on a track. Laptimes were on average around 5s slower than last year.
They're so sluggish in slow corner it's a disaster. Monaco will be very very weird to watch :mrgreen:
Jeez, they don’t look that slow.
Cars have been to big for monaco for awhile i think. Wouldnt say they are slow indeed

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