Is the RB18 dominant?

[TimW]

In 2021 the gaps were huge with the two leading rival cars to the field.

The stunning thing is that Max and Lewis has a bigger gap to the rest of the field than Max had this year.

[DDopey]

It was not the car alone that made so many wins this year, there was a lot more happening last season, from RB side but also Ferrari side.

[wesley123]

Even more impressive then as they had to get into the lead first most of the time..

Yeah wow, they needed 1/3 of a race to get from the back of the grid to first and control the race. Really sounds like the car wasn’t dominant at all.

That happened once this season so we agree the RB18 was the dominant car 1 race of the 2022 season.

Except it won many, many more. Only on 2 occasions was the car actually beat, in Brazil and Austria.

It is absolutely beyond me how anyone can ever doubt that a car that won so many races(with ease). But of course, it's much more likely that Max Verstappen is physics-defying good. And let's absolutely ignore the fact that until Monaco Perez was fairly evenly matched with Max, had an absolute garbage half of a season, yet still comes in third in the championship.

It's also rather comical how your counter argument was that he only needed to come from the back of the grid once. This means that for the other 21 races their drivers started near the front. Considering the reliability issues everyone had last season that heavily implies that Red Bull could turn down their engines.

But I suppose we have hugely different definitions of "dominant" if you think a car that was unchallenged in 18/22 races in a field that is ~1,5s apart isn't dominant.

[organic]

Yeah wow, they needed 1/3 of a race to get from the back of the grid to first and control the race. Really sounds like the car wasn’t dominant at all.

That happened once this season so we agree the RB18 was the dominant car 1 race of the 2022 season.

Except it won many, many more. Only on 2 occasions was the car actually beat, in Brazil and Austria.

It is absolutely beyond me how anyone can ever doubt that a car that won so many races(with ease). But of course, it's much more likely that Max Verstappen is physics-defying good. And let's absolutely ignore the fact that until Monaco Perez was fairly evenly matched with Max, had an absolute garbage half of a season, yet still comes in third in the championship.

It's also rather comical how your counter argument was that he only needed to come from the back of the grid once. This means that for the other 21 races their drivers started near the front. Considering the reliability issues everyone had last season that heavily implies that Red Bull could turn down their engines.

But I suppose we have hugely different definitions of "dominant" if you think a car that was unchallenged in 18/22 races in a field that is ~1,5s apart isn't dominant.

"Unchallenged" in 18/22 races.. what?

For curiousity's sake which 4 have you admitted the rb18 didn't have a resounding advantage at? and what counts as unchallenged for you, since everyone carries different definitions

This is just pure revisionism btw.. race pace between Ferrari and RB was neck-and-neck until the summer break.

[Bill]

That happened once this season so we agree the RB18 was the dominant car 1 race of the 2022 season.

Except it won many, many more. Only on 2 occasions was the car actually beat, in Brazil and Austria.

It is absolutely beyond me how anyone can ever doubt that a car that won so many races(with ease). But of course, it's much more likely that Max Verstappen is physics-defying good. And let's absolutely ignore the fact that until Monaco Perez was fairly evenly matched with Max, had an absolute garbage half of a season, yet still comes in third in the championship.

It's also rather comical how your counter argument was that he only needed to come from the back of the grid once. This means that for the other 21 races their drivers started near the front. Considering the reliability issues everyone had last season that heavily implies that Red Bull could turn down their engines.

But I suppose we have hugely different definitions of "dominant" if you think a car that was unchallenged in 18/22 races in a field that is ~1,5s apart isn't dominant.

"Unchallenged" in 18/22 races.. what?

For curiousity's sake which 4 have you admitted the rb18 didn't have a resounding advantage at? and what counts as unchallenged for you, since everyone carries different definitions

This is just pure revisionism btw.. race pace between Ferrari and RB was neck-and-neck until the summer break.

Max can be anywhere from 0.3 to 0.6 tenth quick than perez thats just numbers.nobody said anything about being physic defying.same with 2021 Max and Lewis were performing significantly better than their teammates so a driver can make a big difference

[PlatinumZealot]

In 2021 the gaps were huge with the two leading rival cars to the field.

The stunning thing is that Max and Lewis has a bigger gap to the rest of the field than Max had this year.

Yeah. No lift and cost or tyre saving was afforded in 2021.

[Stu]

I think that it is appropriate for this thread to now be locked (RB19/Team Livery launch due in - few days time)