Look at the deployment strategy by Porsche engineers. It would be similar to F1 race, battery need not be fully charged, Electrical energy regenerated and used at every instance.
Look at the deployment strategy by Porsche engineers. It would be similar to F1 race, battery need not be fully charged, Electrical energy regenerated and used at every instance.
Stronger concertina, but more time on the straight and the ability to deploy a ton of ERS for the following car, leading to similar speed deltas, but at the cost of losing a bunch of deployment on the following lap, allowing reovertaking.Seanspeed wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 10:53 pmThat's not actually good for overtaking. It means a stronger concertina effect that means it'll be farther down the straight before the car behind starts going faster than the car ahead, meaning there's a shorter distance to actually get alongside.bananapeel23 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 10:03 pmThey will just be really slow under acceleration, like laughably slow, but that is a large part of why they will produce good racing.
I think we'll be clamoring for DRS back again before too long. DRS got a bad rap, but it was so often poorly balanced in terms of how much of it was allowed on a given track, and was especially bad when it was given to cars on back-to-back longer straights.
I don't think they will be able to deploy the full 350KW in traction zones. They will still be slower under acceleration, even if that is where they will lose the least (apart from the end of straight due to the loss of drag).wuzak wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:50 amThey will be very fast at accelerating - that's where the maximum ERS deployment will be used the most.bananapeel23 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 10:03 pmThey will just be really slow under acceleration, like laughably slow, but that is a large part of why they will produce good racing.
It will be like the LMP1s from the 2010s. Though, perhaps, without the speed plateauing very early on the straight.
Monstrosity?deadhead wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 12:44 amTell me we will be able to avoid this sort of monstrosity?
https://ibb.co/3pc22Dg
They're not gonna be anyway near the 919 Evo.FW17 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:02 pmLook at the deployment strategy by Porsche engineers. It would be similar to F1 race, battery need not be fully charged, Electrical energy regenerated and used at every instance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQmSUHhP3ug
Less time on the straight given the general lower drag nature of these newer cars, actually. This will actually make it worse.bananapeel23 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2024 10:39 amStronger concertina, but more time on the straight and the ability to deploy a ton of ERS for the following car, leading to similar speed deltas, but at the cost of losing a bunch of deployment on the following lap, allowing reovertaking.Seanspeed wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 10:53 pmThat's not actually good for overtaking. It means a stronger concertina effect that means it'll be farther down the straight before the car behind starts going faster than the car ahead, meaning there's a shorter distance to actually get alongside.bananapeel23 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 10:03 pmThey will just be really slow under acceleration, like laughably slow, but that is a large part of why they will produce good racing.
I think we'll be clamoring for DRS back again before too long. DRS got a bad rap, but it was so often poorly balanced in terms of how much of it was allowed on a given track, and was especially bad when it was given to cars on back-to-back longer straights.
Looking at that floor and diffuser, I suspect teams will want to put the rear ride height up nice and high like in previous generations to create an effectively larger diffuser?organic wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2024 9:13 pmLooks like diffuser strakes have been allowed with issue 10 of the rules, along with increased freedom with dimensions of diffuser sidewalls
Also from Qvist_Designs
https://i.imgur.com/Znxpghb.jpeg
Feels like the aerodynamics of the new ruleset are going more complicated again after the relative simplicity of 2022-
Engines have not been developed since 2021, Max power from engine could be around 450 KWHolm86 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2024 11:17 pmThey're not gonna be anyway near the 919 Evo.FW17 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:02 pmLook at the deployment strategy by Porsche engineers. It would be similar to F1 race, battery need not be fully charged, Electrical energy regenerated and used at every instance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQmSUHhP3ug
The maximum harvest per lap is 8.5 MJ, thats 24 seconds of full power per lap.
And the maximum charge of the ES at any given moment is 4 MJ, meaning that you can only run full power for a maximum 11.5 seconds at the time.
I doub't these engines will run at full power very often. And full power from the new 2026 engines will be around 750kw = 1006 hp, at a maximum. The 919 Evo had a combined HP output of 1160hp
Why is the gearbox represented like this? wouldn't they follow current size of if not even slimmer?
But maximum deployment is reduced above 290kph as well.FW17 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 23, 2024 11:36 amEngines have not been developed since 2021, Max power from engine could be around 450 KWHolm86 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2024 11:17 pmThey're not gonna be anyway near the 919 Evo.FW17 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:02 pm
Look at the deployment strategy by Porsche engineers. It would be similar to F1 race, battery need not be fully charged, Electrical energy regenerated and used at every instance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQmSUHhP3ug
The maximum harvest per lap is 8.5 MJ, thats 24 seconds of full power per lap.
And the maximum charge of the ES at any given moment is 4 MJ, meaning that you can only run full power for a maximum 11.5 seconds at the time.
I doub't these engines will run at full power very often. And full power from the new 2026 engines will be around 750kw = 1006 hp, at a maximum. The 919 Evo had a combined HP output of 1160hp
4MJ limit is the maximum allowed discharge at a time, They can recharge and deploy multiple time during the lap.
The ICE will.Holm86 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2024 11:17 pmThey're not gonna be anyway near the 919 Evo.FW17 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2024 2:02 pmLook at the deployment strategy by Porsche engineers. It would be similar to F1 race, battery need not be fully charged, Electrical energy regenerated and used at every instance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQmSUHhP3ug
The maximum harvest per lap is 8.5 MJ, thats 24 seconds of full power per lap.
And the maximum charge of the ES at any given moment is 4 MJ, meaning that you can only run full power for a maximum 11.5 seconds at the time.
I doub't these engines will run at full power very often. And full power from the new 2026 engines will be around 750kw = 1006 hp, at a maximum. The 919 Evo had a combined HP output of 1160hp
Current cars cannot put all their power down in traction zones at the moment either.bananapeel23 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 16, 2024 10:40 amI don't think they will be able to deploy the full 350KW in traction zones. They will still be slower under acceleration, even if that is where they will lose the least (apart from the end of straight due to the loss of drag).wuzak wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 11:50 amThey will be very fast at accelerating - that's where the maximum ERS deployment will be used the most.bananapeel23 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 12, 2024 10:03 pmThey will just be really slow under acceleration, like laughably slow, but that is a large part of why they will produce good racing.
It will be like the LMP1s from the 2010s. Though, perhaps, without the speed plateauing very early on the straight.