2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Gillian wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:49 pm
pantherxxx wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:27 pm
It's a win-win situation for Red Bull. If there's no race it's good, if there's a race in rainy conditions, Verstappen will use his superior skills and win.
You are forgetting one scenario: We get just a handfull racing laps with Norris on P1 and Verstappen out of the points. That's a 12 (or 13 with fastest lap) points gain for Norris.
A handful laps would mean 25% of points, that would be 6.25 with a win .. +3 = 9.25
Still lower than the avg needed 12.
Hard to say who'd get fastest lap when wet, but that one is floating around as well.
HuggaWugga !

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Sorry for all the confusion my response caused, though glad somebody looked up the rule and figured it out. I was thinking of the stockpiling rule and that the "unraced" parts were penalised at the next race they were used and assumed it would apply to this situation.

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Ouch!!
Just a fan's point of view

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Out in Q2 and 5 place grid penalty to come for ICE change!

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Why do they always do this and leave the runs until the last minute, asking for it every time

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Should've been out first

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organic wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:41 pm
Should've been out first
Shouldn’t have done that stupid warm up lap, just get a banker in

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Joel709 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:44 pm
organic wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:41 pm
Should've been out first
Shouldn’t have done that stupid warm up lap, just get a banker in
Max wasn't about to do a second warm up lap, impatient ocon overtook him on the main straight to start the first flying lap and so Max had to abort it, then on the next one yellows/red came out. So we have ocon to thank for this result. I'm not sure what happened to perez.
Max should have blocked ocon there, he was too kind.

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organic wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:41 pm
Should've been out first
Being last in the pit is a big disadvantage for them in these situations. I never understood why the 1st team is rewarded with the last pit position. It is more like a punishment.

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Terrible strategy call waiting so long. Both beaten by the VCARBs...

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The only positive is some cars might be having to start from the pits, I.e the astons and maybe Lewis which will push them forward but a poor showing

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Joel709 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:50 pm
The only positive is some cars might be having to start from the pits, I.e the astons and maybe Lewis which will push them forward but a poor showing
They should consider starting from the pit as well. They could put a new of everything + change setup if needed, they must have learnt something how car behaved in wet track during qualy.

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Joel709 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:50 pm
The only positive is some cars might be having to start from the pits, I.e the astons and maybe Lewis which will push them forward but a poor showing
Remember Monza penalty-fest a few years ago. As per the rules Max will go back +5 places P12 to P17 even if a few cars drop out ahead or in between those places. So at least 4 people have to start from the pits for him to start P16.

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Juzh wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:02 pm
Joel709 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:50 pm
The only positive is some cars might be having to start from the pits, I.e the astons and maybe Lewis which will push them forward but a poor showing
Remember Monza penalty-fest a few years ago. As per the rules Max will go back +5 places P12 to P17 even if a few cars drop out ahead or in between those places. So at least 4 people have to start from the pits for him to start P16.
At this rate it’s looking very likely

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Well can’t see Albon being fixed in time. Couple others were pretty bad too. Maybe Sainz and stroll.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.