2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Bye bye WCC

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Autobahn303 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:54 pm
Just as shitty as the server this website is using.
I'm glad it's not just me... I was wondering why every refresh takes 5 minutes to load :lol:

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feel like they could take engine penalty but i get the feeling fred hates that.

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Space-heat wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:58 pm

Do we know for sure the LiCo is for the engine. In Mexico it was for brakes, I think...
My theory is that Ferrari can't use max cooling for the brakes due to tire warmup issues which compromises the car in traffic.

If its the engine, not sure what a new ICE will solve.

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Fakepivot wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:36 pm
fred hates that.
But if they can not optimize the settings, there is no point in leaving this SU, because in the race with such a lico we can not get to McLaren.
FORZA FERRARI!

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JPower wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:59 pm
Space-heat wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:58 pm

Do we know for sure the LiCo is for the engine. In Mexico it was for brakes, I think...
My theory is that Ferrari can't use max cooling for the brakes due to tire warmup issues which compromises the car in traffic.

If its the engine, not sure what a new ICE will solve.
I agree, I think it is a Quali compromise for tire warm up. It is a shame as the Ferrari is great in the braking zones so we are losing due to the LiCo at the end of the straights and the advantage we have in braking. Hopefully they find something in the set up before Quali.

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P3 for Charles.

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Just change the engine now that it's a mess of a wet race.

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dialtone wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:26 pm
Just change the engine now that it's a mess of a wet race.
is there enough budget to at least replace ICE?
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Qualifying is at 7:30 local time. The temperature will be around 19 degrees, similar to sprint qualifying but much colder than the sprint race. Very high chance of rain all throughout the day.

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yooogurt wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 9:52 pm
dialtone wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 7:26 pm
Just change the engine now that it's a mess of a wet race.
is there enough budget to at least replace ICE?
My understanding is that engines are "free". You pay a fee for your engines for the season, but engines over the limit are not included in the budget cap as they are already "paid for" through the aforementioned fee.

It would have been ridiculous if you had reliability issues like Alpine in 2022 and had to shell out several million out of the budget cap for every engine blown.
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jambuka wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 3:59 pm
Bye bye WCC
It was always gonna be very difficult. People were getting overexcited and not appreciating that the Mclaren was still the obviously faster car in almost any situation.

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bananapeel23 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2024 11:14 pm
My understanding is that engines are "free". You pay a fee for your engines for the season, but engines over the limit are not included in the budget cap as they are already "paid for" through the aforementioned fee.

It would have been ridiculous if you had reliability issues like Alpine in 2022 and had to shell out several million out of the budget cap for every engine blown.
As far as I understand PUs are free if they break, but if you change working PU that didn't break you have to pay for it out of budget.
FORZA FERRARI!

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Lift and coast starting from lap 13 for Leclerc was neither for engine nor for brakes, but for tyre temperatures. In lap 11 Bryan said to Leclerc that he should take care of the tyres and a lap after he instructed Leclerc to lift and coast into the braking zones. After the sprint race Leclerc said to Bryan that they pushed too much in the beginning.

Now, some might ask why all of a sudden Ferrari had tyre management issues and the simple answer to that was the biggest weakness of the car which still remained despite the very successfull latest upgrade and that's the instability in high speed direction changes like in S1 in Interlagos.

Ferrari will make changes to the suspension setup to mitigate this issue for the main race. Though, seems like the weather solved this problem anyway for today. :lol:

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---! There's a chance if Sainz can't make up many positions and Red Bull gets both cars through, they overtake us in the WCC.

Hopefully the damage isn't too bad. Hats off to the 55 garage for the repair they're going to have to do.

... Aaaand both Red Bulls out in Q2. Verstappen will definitely make up some positions but still. Not bad for Ferrari.