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Vanja #66 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:11 pm
Front wing and nose completely new, nose tip more rounded, wing scoop slightly reprofiled, outboard angle adjusters

Hungary

https://cdn-8.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... nical.webp

Monaco (same high-load spec)

https://d2n9h2wits23hf.cloudfront.net/i ... /image.jpg
Is the new wing's bottom most element having 'downwash', or is it an optical illusion that my eyes are getting fooled by ?

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organic wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 11:13 am
Behind Halo inlets are gone
As per F1TV, there's new inlets below the airbox behind the driver's head instead.

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venkyhere wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:20 pm
Is the new wing's bottom most element having 'downwash', or is it an optical illusion that my eyes are getting fooled by ?
First element often features negative angle (or positive angle in aerospace nomenclature). Think of slats on aircraft wings and why they point down instead of up

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Vanja #66 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:27 pm
venkyhere wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:20 pm
Is the new wing's bottom most element having 'downwash', or is it an optical illusion that my eyes are getting fooled by ?
First element often features negative angle (or positive angle in aerospace nomenclature). Think of slats on aircraft wings and why they point down instead of up

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... 600pix.jpg

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Mi ... s-Drag.jpg
Also because of relative angle of attack, the rear wings angle of attack isn't necessarily parallel to the ground, as the engine cover draws some of the air downwards

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Matt2725 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:24 pm
organic wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 11:13 am
Behind Halo inlets are gone
As per F1TV, there's new inlets below the airbox behind the driver's head instead.
Here I guess

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Vanja #66 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:11 pm
Front wing and nose completely new, nose tip more rounded, wing scoop slightly reprofiled, outboard angle adjusters

Hungary

https://cdn-8.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... nical.webp

Monaco (same high-load spec)

https://d2n9h2wits23hf.cloudfront.net/i ... /image.jpg
I expected a new front wing for Hungary given timelines involved in the front wing flexing saga. Let's see if it flexes more than previous wings I guess
Last edited by organic on Fri Jul 19, 2024 1:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Front wing has a squarish middle section (perhaps a difference in twist angle between the center and outboard sections of the mainplane)

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organic wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 1:24 pm
Matt2725 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:24 pm
organic wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 11:13 am
Behind Halo inlets are gone
As per F1TV, there's new inlets below the airbox behind the driver's head instead.
Here I guess

https://i.imgur.com/n1BsLog.jpeg
Vanja #66 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:11 pm
Front wing and nose completely new, nose tip more rounded, wing scoop slightly reprofiled, outboard angle adjusters

Hungary

https://cdn-8.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... nical.webp

Monaco (same high-load spec)

https://d2n9h2wits23hf.cloudfront.net/i ... /image.jpg
I expected a new front wing for Hungary given timelines involved in the front wing flexing saga. Let's see if it flexes more than previous wings I guess
Yes they are. I was a bit amazed nobody is talking about them until you posed. They are quite clever inlets. They suck in low quality air at a high pressure. It may be these inlets that void the necessity of the halo gulleys

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SiLo wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:18 pm
The inlets behind the driver were quite large, where has that cooling capacity gone?
It’s behind the driver still but between the center air box support structure. Carlo Platella on twitter posted these images.
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Henk_v wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 4:00 pm
organic wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 1:24 pm
Matt2725 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:24 pm


As per F1TV, there's new inlets below the airbox behind the driver's head instead.
Here I guess

https://i.imgur.com/n1BsLog.jpeg
Vanja #66 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:11 pm
Front wing and nose completely new, nose tip more rounded, wing scoop slightly reprofiled, outboard angle adjusters

Hungary

https://cdn-8.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... nical.webp

Monaco (same high-load spec)

https://d2n9h2wits23hf.cloudfront.net/i ... /image.jpg
I expected a new front wing for Hungary given timelines involved in the front wing flexing saga. Let's see if it flexes more than previous wings I guess
Yes they are. I was a bit amazed nobody is talking about them until you posed. They are quite clever inlets. They suck in low quality air at a high pressure. It may be these inlets that void the necessity of the halo gulleys
Weren't these inlets behind the driver always there?

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f1isgood wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:31 pm
Henk_v wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 4:00 pm
organic wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 1:24 pm


Here I guess

https://i.imgur.com/n1BsLog.jpeg



I expected a new front wing for Hungary given timelines involved in the front wing flexing saga. Let's see if it flexes more than previous wings I guess
Yes they are. I was a bit amazed nobody is talking about them until you posed. They are quite clever inlets. They suck in low quality air at a high pressure. It may be these inlets that void the necessity of the halo gulleys
Weren't these inlets behind the driver always there?
Yes but they're now rotated by 90 degrees and eliminated need for the gutters

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organic wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:53 pm
f1isgood wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 5:31 pm
Henk_v wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 4:00 pm


Yes they are. I was a bit amazed nobody is talking about them until you posed. They are quite clever inlets. They suck in low quality air at a high pressure. It may be these inlets that void the necessity of the halo gulleys
Weren't these inlets behind the driver always there?
Yes but they're now rotated by 90 degrees and eliminated need for the gutters

https://i.imgur.com/CJK4v5W.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/28FYZ8z.jpeg
Ah, subtle. Thanks sir!

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Few frames from F1TV tech talk

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