Flexiwings 2024

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clownfish wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 4:31 pm
mwillems wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 12:47 pm
AR3-GP wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 12:28 pm
and what about Leclerc's win in Baku? Will this be redressed?
No, it was legal then. Just not now.
I don't think it was legal per se, the slot gap rule hasn't changed, nor has the rule about the angle of the DRS flap.

But, those rules were not being enforced correctly, and now they are.

(is my reading of it anyway)
That's F1. Only the tests can deem something illegal, in general, particularly with Aero. Totally against the spirit of the rules, though.
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It should not matter if the wing passes the static load test. What should matter is that the space between the flap and the main plane, should not increase or decrease at any point on track.

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falonso81 wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 5:12 pm
It should not matter if the wing passes the static load test. What should matter is that the space between the flap and the main plane, should not increase or decrease at any point on track.
But the FIA are controlling it with a static load test, against which the technical teams are designing, specifying and testing themselves.

The "gate" has been left open, there's inadequate control in reality.

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I dont think there are any static load tests that pull ‘up’ on the DRS flap when closed. Only test I’m aware of is the slot gap of 85mm with the roller thing (one that Lewis was caught out with in 2021)
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Farnborough wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 5:19 pm
falonso81 wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 5:12 pm
It should not matter if the wing passes the static load test. What should matter is that the space between the flap and the main plane, should not increase or decrease at any point on track.
But the FIA are controlling it with a static load test, against which the technical teams are designing, specifying and testing themselves.

The "gate" has been left open, there's inadequate control in reality.
I do question what will happen if after saying they'll change it Mclaren(or any other team) showed up with something in that vein.
Are they updating the tests?

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They're not doing a good job at policing this, are they?

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organic wrote:They're not doing a good job at policing this, are they?
The moment you don’t prosecute the noodle cars you are opening the flood gates.

Whatever is coming, FIA inconsistency brought it onto themselves.

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dialtone wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 6:00 pm
organic wrote:They're not doing a good job at policing this, are they?
The moment you don’t prosecute the noodle cars you are opening the flood gates.

Whatever is coming, FIA inconsistency brought it onto themselves.
Pretty much.

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Now pretty much nobody is happy

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I think McLaren can be very happy. They had a P2, double podium and a win with an obviously illegal wing which gave them a decent benefit in the race on all 3 tracks
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Well I was certainly happy that it was legal for so long 🤣🤣
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mwillems wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:27 pm
Well I was certainly happy that it was legal for so long 🤣🤣
Agree. FIA tightens the rules quickly. Only when DAS Team finds something is it allowed till next season…😬

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organic wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 5:56 pm
They're not doing a good job at policing this, are they?
In terms of efficacy, the FIA have moved far quicker now than they did in 2021 when they let a development race for a further 3 events that ultimately led to a championship win.

That's if consistency is important to a point.
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pantherxxx wrote:
Fri Sep 20, 2024 1:34 pm
I read that Mclaren gained 3 km/h speed in the straights thanks to the tricky DRS. That would be at least 0.2 seconds advantage per lap, and now it's no more.
But they are still looking very fast. Consistently faster then the Redbull team that's in turmoil.

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We have an all-time winner here, absolute legend of taking 10% of available information and making up a story around it! Of all the nonsense Gary A wrote, this one's out head and shoulders above the rest

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/gary ... rear-wing/
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