2024 Qatar Grand Prix - Lusail, Nov 29 - Dec 01

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Re: 2024 Qatar Grand Prix - Lusail, Nov 29 - Dec 01

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Luscion wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2024 8:02 pm
did anyone improve other than Max on the last lap?
I know Leclerc did, but not enough to improve position.

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Verstappen will probably be starting p4 though thanks to the blocking? Or it was on the outlap so might go unpunished idk

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organic wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2024 8:11 pm
Verstappen will probably be starting p4 though thanks to the blocking? Or it was on the outlap so might go unpunished idk
That was an outlap for George, just melodramatic.

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organic wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2024 8:11 pm
Verstappen will probably be starting p4 though thanks to the blocking?
I dont think Russell was on a fast lap so nah

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Russell just trying to make some drama.

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Cs98 wrote: Normal citizens are a big part of lawmaking, it's called democracy. Lawmakers can write the rules, but people set the agenda and vote them in. Same basic principle with drivers. I'm not expecting George Russell to literally write the rules, but he and others should influence them.
I agree they should influence. But is fans have been asking for rule changes like change the order of sprint and qualifying to remove parque ferme after sprint.

I wouldn’t dismiss fans opinion because it’s the fans’. I would dismiss if it’s a bad idea.

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Sieper wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2024 11:09 pm
I am also expecting (Well hoping to see, but I a bit expect it as well) that Redbull in the hands of Max can fight for the win here.
Well! :D

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Sieper wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2024 8:14 pm
Sieper wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2024 11:09 pm
I am also expecting (Well hoping to see, but I a bit expect it as well) that Redbull in the hands of Max can fight for the win here.
Well! :D
Let's not count the chickens yet :D

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Juzh wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2024 7:43 pm
2021 record beaten.
Honestly, I expected a little bit more than a 1:20.5, but still very fast anyway

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But they flattened the curbs. A good time set but it is not the same track anymore.

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Sieper wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2024 8:27 pm
But they flattened the curbs. A good time set but it is not the same track anymore.
Track limits were not a thing in 2021 and if you look at Hamilton's 2021 lap you will see just how much kerb they were using. Kerbs are less aggressive now, but the drivers just can't use as much track as they could in 2021.

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Russell made a large mistake at T4, Verstappen got the final corner wrong. Take away both mistakes and they end up about equal

Federico Albano's telemetry

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f1onions wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2024 8:50 pm
Sieper wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2024 8:27 pm
But they flattened the curbs. A good time set but it is not the same track anymore.
Track limits were not a thing in 2021 and if you look at Hamilton's 2021 lap you will see just how much kerb they were using. Kerbs are less aggressive now, but the drivers just can't use as much track as they could in 2021.
Thanks for that insight. They made big gains this year, that’s for sure.

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organic wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2024 8:11 pm
Verstappen will probably be starting p4 though thanks to the blocking? Or it was on the outlap so might go unpunished idk
Just 2 cars in front of Russel on an outlap with the same speed. Then Russel came barging through full throttle…
…not smart to keep squealing. Stewards have an iron memory…

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organic wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2024 8:53 pm
Russell made a large mistake at T4, Verstappen got the final corner wrong. Take away both mistakes and they end up about equal

Federico Albano's telemetry

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GdqAa3-WkAA ... =4096x4096
There was no mistake from verstappen, this is just what the car can do. RB20 was crap in final corner in every lap this weekend and it didn't change in qualifying. If you look at Verstappen's best 3 laps you'll see his fastest T16 is on the pole lap:

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