2024 Qatar Grand Prix - Lusail, Nov 29 - Dec 01

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carisi2k wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:43 pm
So did Sergio lose drive as Crofty said or did he just get turned by the car behind?
Looked to me like he dropped it and burned the clutch out when attempting to turn around.

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RonMexico wrote:
carisi2k wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:43 pm
So did Sergio lose drive as Crofty said or did he just get turned by the car behind?
Looked to me like he dropped it and burned the clutch out when attempting to turn around.
Pretty unanimous from ex drivers that it was his mistake due to cold tires.

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RonMexico wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 10:22 pm
carisi2k wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:43 pm
So did Sergio lose drive as Crofty said or did he just get turned by the car behind?
Looked to me like he dropped it and burned the clutch out when attempting to turn around.
I reckon the issue is what caused the spin. Maybe the right driveshaft failed or something went wrong with the diff, maybe something ERS related failed. I have no clue.

I think it's unlikely that he just spun on his own at low speed, then lost drive just seconds alter.

Like I'm a big Checo hater, but even I give him the benefit of the doubt here. He was having a pretty decent race and looked comfortable enough to not make a mistake like that. Something clearly failed.

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Cracking effort from Red Bull Racing - Honda and Max Verstappen! =D> =D> :D

zeph wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:06 pm
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Sun Dec 01, 2024 8:55 pm
zeph wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 8:54 pm
What a BS penalty for Norris. Incredible. F1 is becoming WWE.
Quite normal for speeding under double waved yellows in race conditions as far as I can tell
Some penalty, yes. Not 10 seconds stop and go, that’s just ridiculous
Nonsense. It is is the standard penalty for blatantly ignoring double waved yellows. All other drivers were over 10kph slower on the straight on that lap.

Imagine if Norris was still in WDC contention and then attracted the 35s penalty due to his incompetence! That would be yet another critical failure from Norris. :shock:

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Sun Dec 01, 2024 9:08 pm
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Horrible indiscretion from the unwise Norris! What poor driving.
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McLarenHonda wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 8:48 pm
Pretty interesting! But Max is right…Russell plays it polite in front of the cameras and then will try to screw you over at the first chance! This is pretty much what he has been doing with Lewis inside Mercedes these past 3 years too…

Exactly well Max said in front of Dutch press Russell is asshole, but yeah we knew that already. Now I am not a Hamilton fan, but i respect the guy but Russell he is just a fly by, seen his start kinda understand why Toto wants to get rid of him.

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epo wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 10:38 pm
McLarenHonda wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 8:48 pm
Pretty interesting! But Max is right…Russell plays it polite in front of the cameras and then will try to screw you over at the first chance! This is pretty much what he has been doing with Lewis inside Mercedes these past 3 years too…

Exactly well Max said in front of Dutch press Russell is asshole, but yeah we knew that already. Now I am not a Hamilton fan, but i respect the guy but Russell he is just a fly by, seen his start kinda understand why Toto wants to get rid of him.
Well, the most interesting part will be how Rus reacts on this. :mrgreen: =D>
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What is the verdict on the punctures of Hamilton and Sainz? They were both front left punctures. This track abuses the front left tire. I don't buy that it was debris related. More drivers should have been affected. Pirelli will take this to their grave...
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AR3-GP wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 11:07 pm
What is the verdict on the punctures of Hamilton and Sainz? They were both front left punctures. This track abuses the front left tire. I don't buy that it was debris related. More drivers should have been affected. Pirelli will take this to their grave...
Sainz said it probably wasn't debris, it happened before the last corner, probably just ran the tire dead.

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AR3-GP wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 11:07 pm
What is the verdict on the punctures of Hamilton and Sainz? They were both front left punctures. This track abuses the front left tire. I don't buy that it was debris related. More drivers should have been affected. Pirelli will take this to their grave...
The reason for Pirelli raising the front tire start pressure, to protect the structure under this extensive loading.

Unsure of Sainz characteristic, but one of the observation within MB of LH driving and how he hammers the front with late aggressive braking.

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Guys we shouldnt talk about f1 , but talk about laura her outfits that counts in f1 nowadays the rest doesnt matter

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McLarenHonda wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 8:48 pm
Pretty interesting! But Max is right…Russell plays it polite in front of the cameras and then will try to screw you over at the first chance! This is pretty much what he has been doing with Lewis inside Mercedes these past 3 years too…

Even while he was bumping wheels with Hamilton(and more recently Lando) Max never took things this personal.

Right or wrong, he 100% believes what Russell did was a cheap manipulative trick.

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Sevach wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 11:50 pm
Even while he was bumping wheels with Hamilton(and more recently Lando) Max never took things this personal.

Right or wrong, he 100% believes what Russell did was a cheap manipulative trick.
So if Max ends up with Mercedes at the end, we know that his teammate will be Antonelli. :)

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Paa wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2024 12:01 am
Sevach wrote:
Sun Dec 01, 2024 11:50 pm
Even while he was bumping wheels with Hamilton(and more recently Lando) Max never took things this personal.

Right or wrong, he 100% believes what Russell did was a cheap manipulative trick.
So if Max ends up with Mercedes at the end, we know that his teammate will be Antonelli. :)
Yes though tbh I don't think Russell has Mercedes nor Toto backing.

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Can anyone clear my doubt?
Is the first-place driver allowed to do a brake test before the restart at the SC exit? Max did it on the second restart, and I don't see anyone commenting on it.
In telemetry, the brake test is very evident.

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Question, and this is not in reference to Hamilton specifically, but what do you have to do to get more than 5 seconds for a jump start? I don't understand why people don't just go well before the lights go out if you will only get done with 5 seconds. For a backmarker team, the value of getting in front of the DRS trains is worth more than 5 seconds.
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