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2025 FIM MotoGP World Championship

Posted: 28 Feb 2025, 07:26
by TeamKoolGreen
The season opener is this weekend in Thailand

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Re: 2025 FIM MotoGP World Championship

Posted: 28 Feb 2025, 07:27
by Chuckjr
Absolutely can’t wait!

Re: 2025 FIM MotoGP World Championship

Posted: 28 Feb 2025, 11:42
by Farnborough
Yes, anticipating a really good season too.

Marquez fast out of the blocks :D today. I feel that he brings more maturity to his performance now, with reduction in personal risk to better capitalise on his latent skill, still above many other's will ever achieve too. Always good to watch, great to see him through and out the other end of that injury period and serious problems in recovery.

Hoping to see more impact in championship for Acosta too, after his initial finding his feet year.

Yamaha appear to have defined, for themselves, a better trajectory in approach of bike development and application to task than they'd previously imparted. They seemed to let it drift away, even though the championship with Quatararo came the other year. Good to see how serious they've now brought their approach.

Honda too, seemed to be more accepting of their outlook and it's possibilities. Getting more serious and diverse in approach now to bring a bike that's not ridden by Marquez to the party.

A lot to see this year. Overall lap time spread already looks quite tight from initial FP etc today.

Re: 2025 FIM MotoGP World Championship

Posted: 01 Mar 2025, 19:45
by Chuckjr
Look at him go! Amazing and spectacular to see MM in the red Ducati taking it to the field in the sprint race. AM with a superb ride also to take a well merited 2nd. Both guys really just easing into a nice one second lead and chilling to the finish. Ducati have to be thrilled to have MM. He actually looks younger this year. Must be a rush to be riding the #1 bike. I’m sure the leadership on the team feel so much more confident with MM at the helm. I’m really looking forward to watching that dude just waste the field all year. Like a 2002 Schumacher. Bring it.

Re: 2025 FIM MotoGP World Championship

Posted: 02 Mar 2025, 12:46
by CHT
The King is back. this dude is out of this world
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Re: 2025 FIM MotoGP World Championship

Posted: 02 Mar 2025, 17:22
by Farnborough
Realistically, it can now be seen that the other world champions, during Marquez injury /recovery period, had it somewhat easy with regard to acquired wins etc.

I don't undervalue the championships achieved, enjoyed watching the difference in rider and bike performances but can see that it would in all likelihood played out differently without those events.

Racing is what it is though, Marquez originally injured from probably extending his far reaches of abilities in riding the Honda of that period, inclusive of the bikes during rehabilitation. Its definitely part of the competition within the sport from each of the contestants, factory, brands and other parts that form the competition whole.

Everyone else need even more concentration in combating Marquez now, with still more knowledge within him in how to temper the most risk situations to his ultimate advantage.

Some good racing to come now, no doubt.

Re: 2025 FIM MotoGP World Championship

Posted: 02 Mar 2025, 17:46
by FrukostScones
With the World Champion missing the first two, three or four races, there will be only Bagnaia there to challenge Marquez.

Let's see if he will be able to do it.


Here is the article with the doctor that saved Marquez career with the "mirror-technique surgery":

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/ ... /10432924/

One of the most interesting MotoGP articles I ever read.

Re: 2025 FIM MotoGP World Championship

Posted: 02 Mar 2025, 18:49
by Seanspeed
FrukostScones wrote:
02 Mar 2025, 17:46
With the World Champion missing the first two, three or four races, there will be only Bagnaia there to challenge Marquez.

Let's see if he will be able to do it.


Here is the article with the doctor that saved Marquez career with the "mirror-technique surgery":

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/ ... /10432924/

One of the most interesting MotoGP articles I ever read.
I mean, let's be real here - Bagnaia didn't win the title last year, but was easily the better of the two between him and Martin. 10 proper race wins vs Martin's 3.

If MotoGP didn't award 2nd place so highly with 20 points, and did 18 instead like in F1, then Bagnaia would have been champion.

So yea, without Martin it's certainly one less guy up there to mix it up, but Bagnaia was always expected to be Marquez's biggest obstacle.

Re: 2025 FIM MotoGP World Championship

Posted: 02 Mar 2025, 19:19
by Farnborough
Yes, Bagnia was the "natural" champion last year 2024 on pace and race wins.

He did though make a complete mess of the sprint races. Someone compiled the stats without the sprint results, which would have made him champion, and obviously far more victory in the main GP events. Payed the price for those error certainly.

It was though compiled of all races, for which Martin performed well and focused on that aggregate of points available.

Re: 2025 FIM MotoGP World Championship

Posted: 02 Mar 2025, 19:46
by FrukostScones
This is actually also what I wanted to say, and in general I like the new graphics, apart from the missing timing tower sector times information during qualifying and the counterintuitive fonts and missing intervalls/gaps.
Maybe the graphic designers followed their natural talent and won the contract with Dorna, soon to be owned by Liberty Media until the EU will give their CIP Green Power powered green light. And then we maybe will see great Marc Marques brother as title brothership contender and when this happens, Suddenly the KTM becomes better and Pedro Acosta will join the Championship contention. But all in all this is pretty clear cut and can be naturally explained by adding less fuel to Quartaros fuel tank in order to ensure the most optimized trade off between lap times and margin of error management. Until this is finally decided, one must admit that there is of course one rider that outshines them all but if I wanted to the the F1 2002 Season again I would watch that with great German F1 driver and occasional rider of motorized bicycles Michael Schumacher again.

Re: 2025 FIM MotoGP World Championship

Posted: 02 Mar 2025, 19:56
by Chuckjr
FrukostScones wrote:
02 Mar 2025, 17:46

Here is the article with the doctor that saved Marquez career with the "mirror-technique surgery":

https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/ ... /10432924/

One of the most interesting MotoGP articles I ever read.
That was an amazing read. Thank you for posting.

Re: 2025 FIM MotoGP World Championship

Posted: 02 Mar 2025, 20:07
by Chuckjr
Question, I am not familiar enough with MotoGP racing yet to understand what I think I saw at 1 min 13 seconds.

In the attached link below, does BB in the KTM actually lose the front wheel for a second, drop to the side of the bike (!), and then recover the front tire back to the ground to avoid the crash? Is that what I just saw? :shock:


Re: 2025 FIM MotoGP World Championship

Posted: 02 Mar 2025, 21:17
by Farnborough
Effectively, yes.

I can't quite see exactly in that example the fine detail though.

When the front "pushes" too much it may not support the load of leaning and braking at that point, to then slide out with the tyre lifted from track.
By pushing with their knee or elbow, this while pulling the lower side handlebar in turning into the corner (tighter steering) it just brings enough geometry/friction in conflict on edge of tyre to bite and pick the bike up again.

Quite impressive to watch :D

Plenty example on yt of Marquez in good detail doing this, sometimes having more than two attempt as its ploughing along on it's side :shock: pretty spectacular though.

The first person I saw in good video record of it was Mick Doohan on the two stroke 500 Honda, sometimes a really wild ride from him. Absolutely brilliant to watch too.

Re: 2025 FIM MotoGP World Championship

Posted: 08 Mar 2025, 10:57
by Chuckjr
Helpful video that explains some great details about MotoGP riding and modern cornering technique.

Re: 2025 FIM MotoGP World Championship

Posted: 17 Mar 2025, 02:53
by Chuckjr
Fantastic race today. How EPIC was it to see the Marquez brothers just taking it to the field. Slam dunk 1-2. Mark had a few amazing saves while chasing Alex. Can't believe he was able to save it lap 15 when he lost the rear, started falling off the bike, and then pulled it back while losing hardly any time. Champion material. He is going to stomp the field and embarrass FB all year. Amazing racer. Legendary.