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Who was the 1st to introduce one?

I remeber Prost having one in 2001 Monaco GP

Were thay 1st?

Champ Car 1978 if that counts:

Those barge Boards are more like Bill Boards on that prost

In recent times Prost were the first to race them, Ferrari also practiced with them around the same time.
IIRC BAR were the first to run a Bi plane wing after that, with Renault then developing the cascade endplates

scarbs wrote:In recent times Prost were the first to race them, Ferrari also practiced with them around the same time.
IIRC BAR were the first to run a Bi plane wing after that, with Renault then developing the cascade endplates

And it was BAR 007 in late 2005 having the 'full size' upper plane before 248 F1 boasted theirs

Looking at the Honda and Prost. The Prost was probably hard to drive being a rearward team so I wonder if this was a huge aero development to solve some handling difficulty, but it occured to me that Prost didn't have the cash for a huge aero development, whereas that extra piece of carbon fibre is great advertising space. And look at the honda taking full advantage of that factor too. Back to the bill-board?

Quite conversely, the extra bi plane flap would have been a cheaper way for Prost to add downforce than a new front wing.

scarbs wrote:Quite conversely, the extra bi plane flap would have been a cheaper way for Prost to add downforce than a new front wing.

Absolutely. It was only for the Monaco GP where teams often add stuff to get more downforece like Renault used to mount wings on their engine covers (before 2004 when F2004 made it popular).

Alot of teams did that.

I remember TF using a deck wing in 2002 with the airbox wings.

Williams ran a huge one in 2000 :p

PNSD wrote:Alot of teams did that.

I remember TF using a deck wing in 2002 with the airbox wings.

Williams ran a huge one in 2000 :p

Any pics?

2000 Williams, although its just a model so it might not show it very well.

That pic looks suspiciously like a 2003 FW25.

joseff wrote:That pic looks suspiciously like a 2003 FW25.

It is but.... anyway am I blind or the UPPER FWing plane is invisible?
If y memory serves me right the FWs showed one in late 2006 first.

I was replying to your post

And you mentioned engine covers

Monaco, 2000, Williams, go look

PNSD wrote:I was replying to your post

And you mentioned engine covers

Monaco, 2000, Williams, go look