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For The Jag love
Posted: 16 May 2007, 08:03
by m3_lover
This new XF car coming out is a huge deal for Jaguar. and Ford.if they dont get it right with this car..I suspect that Jag will be the next car company that Ford will sell.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/wp-content/ ... dg=1&idi=1
Posted: 16 May 2007, 08:16
by ds.raikkonen
Looks like Ford will have to sell Jag after all, the XF is not that good so as to keep Jag alive...they re already incurring heavy losses even after the new XK(which looks too like an Aston)...although they used less expensive, old stuff in the XK, it still was a good sports car, but with the XF(which is in league with the XJ i believe?)...dunno what theyre trying to do.
Posted: 16 May 2007, 09:20
by m3_lover
The Sales of the new XK have been really good(trying to find figures) . The XF is the new S-type and Jaguar had a lot losses because of the XJ and X-type and shutting down plants in england. I do not think they have ever been profitable with Jaguar with the 18 years of ownership.
Posted: 16 May 2007, 10:01
by ds.raikkonen
The XJ has been around for quite a long time, its high time they changed/replaced it. The XF is a good replacement for the S-type though, which many ppl say is the ugliest Jag.
Posted: 16 May 2007, 10:22
by Ranald
As far as i remember there have been rumours about Ford selling jaguar for about 18 months. Jaguar was apparently to be sold in a bundle deal with Volvo.
Posted: 16 May 2007, 11:35
by ds.raikkonen
Ranald wrote:As far as i remember there have been rumours about Ford selling jaguar for about 18 months. Jaguar was apparently to be sold in a bundle deal with Volvo.
Well, they did nt sell Jag for god knows what reason..i think the new XK was the reason that held them back...as m3 said, its doing good. Why sell Volvo though? I think its doing good..isnt it?
Posted: 16 May 2007, 12:05
by DaveKillens
Although I'm the kind of person who salivates at the sight of an E Type, and coveted one when I was young and had hair, I just can't see anything in the new XF to set it apart from it's competition.
Posted: 16 May 2007, 12:54
by Ranald
Again as far as I'm aware Aston Martin was the only part of the Ford empire that was making enough money.
Posted: 16 May 2007, 13:11
by ds.raikkonen
Ranald wrote:Again as far as I'm aware Aston Martin was the only part of the Ford empire that was making enough money.
Aston? You serious? After limited production and everything?
Posted: 16 May 2007, 16:08
by Ranald
ds.raikkonen wrote:Ranald wrote:Again as far as I'm aware Aston Martin was the only part of the Ford empire that was making enough money.
Aston? You serious? After limited production and everything?
Aston production numbers increased significantly under Ford. You could say similar things about jaguar.
Posted: 16 May 2007, 16:35
by joseff
They really really should've built the F-type from 2000. That was one GORGEOUS motorcar.
Posted: 16 May 2007, 19:04
by ds.raikkonen
Ranald wrote:Aston production numbers increased significantly under Ford. You could say similar things about jaguar.
Yeah...okay, but even so....what about Land Rover, Volvo, Mercury, Lincoln and even 33.4% of Mazda shares are with Ford
Posted: 16 May 2007, 20:00
by m3_lover
Volvo makes alot of serious cash..and Land Rover just started to, and Ranald is right Aston Martin was making profits. But Jaguar had too many unsold cars of the X-type and the cost of producing the new Aluminum XJ was quiet expensive.
Posted: 16 May 2007, 23:27
by mx_tifoso
Land Rover sales don't seem to bad according to Ford
. I see
a lot of LR's here where I live, so it looks to be going pretty good for them.
http://media.ford.com/newsroom/feature_ ... ease=22757
Posted: 17 May 2007, 07:55
by ds.raikkonen
m3_lover wrote:...and the cost of producing the new Aluminum XJ was quiet expensive.
I think this is the reason:
The X350's chassis and body are constructed from aluminium. While some steel is used in some places throughout the chassis, the X350 has an aluminium monocoque/chassis similar in general design to a conventional steel structure, but with two differences; its underbody components are bonded together with aerospace-grade epoxy adhesives while around 3,200 self-piercing rivets are used to create the new XJ's unibody. A conventional steel body would be spot-welded. Interestingly, the construction method of X350 is different to the one Audi employs for the A8, but both methods are considered advanced.
On its own, the current XJ's bodyshell weighs about the same as a contemporary BMW MINI. If the car were made of steel, it is estimated that it would weigh 40% more.