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Race Car Design
Posted: 09 Oct 2007, 03:58
by thecheetahs
What are some of the most important concepts when designing a F1 racing car, is there any certain car design that is really outsatnding compared to the rest?
Posted: 09 Oct 2007, 04:46
by mx_tifoso
Welcome to THE forum thecheetahs.
It definately depends on the type of racing going to be done, as some designs are more favourable to a specific form of racing, from rally, road-racing, drag, oval, "drift". But to get the ball rolling, with some known basics:
Low: CoG, Mass/weight, unsprung weight
High: Chassis/suspension stiffness, engine output (relative), efficiency, reliability.
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Re: Race Car Design
Posted: 09 Oct 2007, 14:03
by zac510
thecheetahs wrote:What are some of the most important concepts when designing a F1 racing car, is there any certain car design that is really outsatnding compared to the rest?
THE RULES!
Posted: 09 Oct 2007, 14:25
by scarbs
Budget....
Posted: 09 Oct 2007, 15:50
by modbaraban
Intelligence service, anyone?
Posted: 10 Oct 2007, 03:24
by fastback33
mx_tifosi wrote:Welcome to THE forum thecheetahs.
It definately depends on the type of racing going to be done, as some designs are more favourable to a specific form of racing, from rally, road-racing, drag, oval, "drift". But to get the ball rolling, with some known basics:
Low: CoG, Mass/weight, unsprung weight
High: Chassis/suspension stiffness, engine output (relative), efficiency, reliability.
......
I have a question. Where do you start when designing a chassis, of any kind? I heard the wheels and then work your way in to the suspension.
Yet, I find that hard to beleive because how would you design a stiff chassis if you started witht he suspension design first?
Posted: 10 Oct 2007, 05:21
by Carlos
Yes, I think your right, that would be a good place to start....the wheels first. That gives you 2 important lines to start with... the 'axle' center-lines.
Posted: 10 Oct 2007, 13:26
by Tom
I would have thought it was the wheels then the safety cell. There was a video of Brudle looking at a Redbull, that I can't seem to find now. I think that explained the exact order.
Posted: 10 Oct 2007, 19:22
by Scuderia_Russ
Money, money but most importantly of all I would have to say money.
Posted: 10 Oct 2007, 19:52
by mx_tifoso
Scuderia_Russ wrote:Money, money but most importantly of all I would have to say money.
Must be why Toyota F1 is at the top of the WC standings right now.
I think budget, as scarbs wrote, is one of the main departments that needs to be well organized and stuctured, in order to allocate those funds as effectively and efficiently as possible.
I may be beating a dead horse with this, but Renault were masters of this concept during their WC runs in '05 and '06. Along with paying their employees (drivers) meager wages, in comparison to their main competitors Ferrari and McLaren.
Posted: 10 Oct 2007, 22:03
by Scuderia_Russ
Good point. Add project execution to that then.
Posted: 11 Oct 2007, 23:41
by ss_collins
THE RULES!
couldn't agree more - then probably the tyres