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Atomic Structure of CFRP

Posted: 03 Feb 2009, 22:49
by ShiGuy
Hey, I have been looking everywhere to find the atomic/molecular structure of Carbon Fibre Reinforced Plastic (or even carbon fibre) and the way the polymers are arranged but I can't find it anywhere. I need a more physics-y explanation than a chemistry one if possible (with diagrams too if possible). any help? thanks

Re: Atomic Structure of CFRP

Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 03:17
by flynfrog
there are thousands of different possibilities. CFRP is like saying metal.

Re: Atomic Structure of CFRP

Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 03:24
by casper

Re: Atomic Structure of CFRP

Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 04:29
by Conceptual
So, if the oil companies started mass producing carbon fibre immediately, that we would solve the hydrogen shortage?

Just add heat. Sounds simple enough, right?

Re: Atomic Structure of CFRP

Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 09:28
by kilcoo316
ShiGuy wrote:Hey, I have been looking everywhere to find the atomic/molecular structure of Carbon Fibre Reinforced Plastic (or even carbon fibre) and the way the polymers are arranged but I can't find it anywhere. I need a more physics-y explanation than a chemistry one if possible (with diagrams too if possible). any help? thanks
Are you talking about the fibre or the resin?

Carbon fibre is carbon - usually graphite - and would be C.

The resin can be anything... there are hundreds of different ones out there!

Re: Atomic Structure of CFRP

Posted: 04 Feb 2009, 16:11
by Conceptual
Those links from Casper had me tied up for about 3 hours last night... I may not remember the exact names of the polymers, but I literally read that entire site straight through. EXCELLENT SITE, and man, what I learned in 3 hours is monumental. I now have a super understanding, and i sincerely thank you, Casper, for the shared knowledge.

THANKS!

Re: Atomic Structure of CFRP

Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 10:21
by riff_raff
Elemental carbon has basically two crystalline forms: planar and cubic. Cubic is that found in diamonds. Planar is the form found in graphite, and the "carbon" used in composites is really graphite. There are also other exotic, man-made forms of carbon like buckeyballs or nanotubes.

Graphite fibers make good structures due to their low density, high strength and stiffness. Their primary drawback is that they normally only exist as tiny fibers. A skinny fiber is great in tension, but lousy in compression. To keep the fibers aligned in the direction that they are best at taking loads, they must be embedded in a resin matrix- usually epoxy.

So ShiGuy, to put it in "physic-y" terms you can understand: "You can't push on a string"

Re: Atomic Structure of CFRP

Posted: 08 Dec 2011, 18:06
by Mr Sisco
im currently on an engineering course, and these links were very usefull. thanks you just made a 2 week assignment alot easier.