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Engine usage in '09
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 14:03
by Henning
So we're approaching the 4th of the season now. Does anybody know how many engines each driver has used from their allocation of 8?
3 different engines for each of the first three races which have been put in storage for later in the year?
1 engine for all three races since two of them were in the rain?
Does anyone have any idea?
Re: Engine usage in '09
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 14:42
by Ciro Pabón
Summary: all of them have used 2 engines, except Robert Kubitza, who has used three and Heikki Kovalainen, who has used 1. I made this graph:
Verse and chapter:
ES# - Engine Serial # - for each driver
EV# - Event number - number of events that engine has been used
Note that in Malaysia most teams changed engines after Friday practice, but at Shanghai, only Hamilton and Kubica did so.
1. Lewis Hamilton McLaren Mercedes FO108W
No. GP ES# Laps Ev-Km. Ev# Status
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1 AUS 1 130 689.390 1 New
2 MAL 1 105 582.015 2
3 CHN 1 50 272.550 3
3 CHN 2 90 490.590 1 New
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4 2 375 2034.545
2. Heikki Kovalainen McLaren Mercedes FO108W
No. GP ES# Laps Ev-Km. Ev# Status
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1 AUS 1 78 413.634 1 New
2 MAL 1 74 410.182 2
3 CHN 1 136 741.336 3
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3 1 288 1565.152
3. Felipe Massa Ferrari Ferrari 056
No. GP ES# Laps Ev-Km. Ev# Status
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1 AUS 1 142 753.026 1 New
2 MAL 1 59 327.037 2
2 MAL 2 48 266.064 1 New
3 CHN 2 103 561.453 2
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4 2 352 1907.580
4. Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari Ferrari 056
No. GP ES# Laps Ev-Km. Ev# Status
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1 AUS 1 137 726.511 1 New
2 MAL 1 58 321.494 2
2 MAL 2 62 343.666 1 New
3 CHN 2 148 806.748 2
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4 2 405 2198.419
5. Robert Kubica BMW Sauber BMW P86/9
No. GP ES# Laps Ev-Km. Ev# Status
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1 AUS 1 150 795.450 1 New
2 MAL 1 56 310.408 2
2 MAL 2 38 210.634 1 New
3 CHN 2 52 283.452 2
3 CHN 3 78 425.178 1 New
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5 3 374 2025.122
6. Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber BMW P86/9
No. GP ES# Laps Ev-Km. Ev# Status
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1 AUS 1 145 768.935 1 New
2 MAL 1 54 299.322 2
2 MAL 2 63 349.209 1 New
3 CHN 2 133 724.983 2
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4 2 395 2142.449
7. Fernando Alonso Renault Renault RS27
No. GP ES# Laps Ev-Km. Ev# Status
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1 AUS 1 132 699.996 1 New
2 MAL 1 32 177.376 2
2 MAL 2 62 343.666 1 New
3 CHN 2 130 708.630 2
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4 2 356 1929.668
8. Nelsinho Piquet Renault Renault RS27
No. GP ES# Laps Ev-Km. Ev# Status
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1 AUS 1 118 625.754 1 New
2 MAL 1 55 304.865 2
2 MAL 2 60 332.580 1 New
3 CHN 2 136 741.336 2
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4 2 369 2004.535
9. Jarno Trulli Toyota Toyota RVX-09
No. GP ES# Laps Ev-Km. Ev# Status
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1 AUS 1 160 848.480 1 New
2 MAL 1 60 332.580 2
2 MAL 2 72 399.096 1 New
3 CHN 2 122 665.022 2
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4 2 414 2245.178
10. Timo Glock Toyota Toyota RVX-09
No. GP ES# Laps Ev-Km. Ev# Status
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1 AUS 1 168 890.904 1 New
2 MAL 1 56 310.408 2
2 MAL 2 77 426.811 1 New
3 CHN 2 137 746.787 2
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4 2 438 2374.910
11. Sébastien Bourdais Toro Rosso Ferrari 056
No. GP ES# Laps Ev-Km. Ev# Status
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1 AUS 1 141 747.723 1 New
2 MAL 2 112 620.816 1 New
3 CHN 2 141 768.591 2
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3 2 394 2137.130
12. Sébastien Buemi Toro Rosso Ferrari 056
No. GP ES# Laps Ev-Km. Ev# Status
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1 AUS 1 145 768.935 1 New
2 MAL 2 110 609.730 1 New
3 CHN 2 153 834.003 2
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3 2 408 2212.668
14. Mark Webber Red Bull Renault RS27
No. GP ES# Laps Ev-Km. Ev# Status
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1 AUS 1 130 689.390 1 New
2 MAL 1 59 327.037 2
2 MAL 2 63 349.209 1 New
3 CHN 2 135 735.885 2
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4 2 387 2101.521
15. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Renault RS27
No. GP ES# Laps Ev-Km. Ev# Status
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1 AUS 1 112 593.936 1 New
2 MAL 1 65 360.295 2
2 MAL 2 61 338.123 1 New
3 CHN 2 116 632.316 2
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4 2 354 1924.670
16. Nico Rosberg Williams Toyota RVX-09
No. GP ES# Laps Ev-Km. Ev# Status
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1 AUS 1 155 821.965 1 New
2 MAL 1 66 365.838 2
2 MAL 2 71 393.553 1 New
3 CHN 2 155 844.905 2
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4 2 447 2426.261
17. Kazuki Nakajima Williams Toyota RVX-09
No. GP ES# Laps Ev-Km. Ev# Status
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1 AUS 1 105 556.815 1 New
2 MAL 1 60 332.580 2
2 MAL 2 62 343.666 1 New
3 CHN 2 130 708.630 2
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4 2 357 1941.691
20. Adrian Sutil Force India Mercedes FO108W
No. GP ES# Laps Ev-Km. Ev# Status
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1 AUS 1 128 678.784 1 New
2 MAL 1 54 299.322 2
2 MAL 2 58 321.494 1 New
3 CHN 2 125 681.375 2
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4 2 365 1980.975
21. Giancarlo Fisichella Force India Mercedes FO108W
No. GP ES# Laps Ev-Km. Ev# Status
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1 AUS 1 136 721.208 1 New
2 MAL 1 47 260.521 2
2 MAL 2 56 310.408 1 New
3 CHN 2 133 724.983 2
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4 2 372 2017.120
22. Jenson Button Brawn Mercedes FO108W
No. GP ES# Laps Ev-Km. Ev# Status
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1 AUS 1 147 779.541 1 New
2 MAL 1 51 282.693 2
2 MAL 2 66 365.838 1 New
3 CHN 2 144 784.944 2
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4 2 408 2213.016
23. Rubens Barrichello Brawn Mercedes FO108W
No. GP ES# Laps Ev-Km. Ev# Status
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1 AUS 1 157 832.571 1 New
2 MAL 1 59 327.037 2
2 MAL 2 70 388.010 1 New
3 CHN 2 148 806.748 2
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4 2 434 2354.366
Source: Jo Bauer's Technical Reports, via Brian Lawrence at old Usenet (aka Google Groups).
Re: Engine usage in '09
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 14:53
by bar555
Great data
=D>
Can you find similar data for gearbox usage in 2009
Re: Engine usage in '09
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 15:20
by Ciro Pabón
Well, ναι, dear bar555. There are no impossible things, only unable men, altough I'd say it's impossible to avoid brawls
if I let you alone for one day, ehem.
Rule: Drivers must use the same gearbox for four successive events. Any gearbox changes will result in a 5-place grid penalty at that event. Drivers who fail to finish a race are able to change gearboxes without penalty.
Australia
1. Hamilton - new 'box after qualifying, 5-place penalty
Malaysia
4. Räikkönen - DNF in Melbourne, so free change allowed
15. Vettel - DNF in Melbourne, free change
23. Barrichello - new 'box, 5-place penalty
China
10. Glock - new 'box', 5-place penalty
23. Barrichello - free change because he used a spare 'box at Sepang
"The above driver had to replace his previous gearbox during the last event for a spare gearbox and this was before the four consecutive events expired. Therefore he may use a new gearbox at this event and the four consecutive events will start here in accordance with Article 28.6a of the 2009 Formula One Sporting Regulations."
Source: Brian Lawrence, at old Usenet group, rec.sports.formula1.
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Re: Engine usage in '09
Posted: 22 Apr 2009, 19:46
by bar555
You are so kind Ciro Pabón
Thanks a lot
Muchos gracias senior
ευχαριστώ
Re: Engine usage in '09
Posted: 23 Apr 2009, 12:43
by ESPImperium
Looks like im gonna have to start a new spreadsheet for engines for my data. But my data suggests simmilar ammounts of engine usage, but i dont have the distances ar anything on my data... yet.
However, i do have Chassis and KERS equiped data.
Re: Engine usage in '09
Posted: 23 Apr 2009, 13:41
by Henning
Fantastic data Ciro. Exactly what I was after. It's interesting to see how many miles Kovalainen has covered in Australia and Malasian eventhough he only managed 2 laps of racing.
Re: Engine usage in '09
Posted: 23 Apr 2009, 14:47
by ESPImperium
Heres the chassis data i have so far for comparison data:
Re: Engine usage in '09
Posted: 23 Apr 2009, 14:52
by Ciro Pabón
ESPImperium wrote:Looks like im gonna have to start a new spreadsheet for engines for my data. But my data suggests simmilar ammounts of engine usage, but i dont have the distances ar anything on my data... yet.
However, i do have Chassis and KERS equiped data.
Nice info, ESP, thank you very much. Just in case, here is the spreadsheet I made, in case you want to reuse something (it's not a very good one, it has no structure):
http://sigbrio.googlepages.com/EngineUsage2009.xls
Perhaps we could update this thread once in a while. If the average I find continues, most drivers are going to use the 8 engines allowed well before the end of the championship.
You're welcome, henning. Eukaristó to you, bar555.
Re: Engine usage in '09
Posted: 23 Apr 2009, 14:55
by ESPImperium
Thanks for the added data, im now gonna try and figure out a way to try and incorperate it in to my own data.
Kinda like putting a DDD onto a SDD cars rear end, but ill do a Newey, and pull heaven and earth to incorperate it.
Re: Engine usage in '09
Posted: 23 Apr 2009, 15:12
by ESPImperium
ESPImperium wrote:Thanks for the added data, im now gonna try and figure out a way to try and incorperate it in to my own data.
Kinda like putting a DDD onto a SDD cars rear end, but ill do a Newey, and pull heaven and earth to incorperate it.
EDIT:
The tough part is if a dcar has a engine change in the middle of a week end. Thats what totally f's things up.
Im gonna try something and see if that works.
Re: Engine usage in '09
Posted: 23 Apr 2009, 15:44
by ESPImperium
ESPImperium wrote:ESPImperium wrote:Thanks for the added data, im now gonna try and figure out a way to try and incorperate it in to my own data.
Kinda like putting a DDD onto a SDD cars rear end, but ill do a Newey, and pull heaven and earth to incorperate it.
EDIT:
The tough part is if a dcar has a engine change in the middle of a week end. Thats what totally f's things up.
Im gonna try something and see if that works.
EDIT #2:
Got my head arround it, and this is a biggie tho.
Re: Engine usage in '09
Posted: 23 Apr 2009, 18:22
by ESPImperium
Re: Engine usage in '09
Posted: 23 Apr 2009, 19:05
by Ciro Pabón
Wow. If I had a hat, I would take it off.
Re: Engine usage in '09
Posted: 23 Apr 2009, 19:20
by ESPImperium
Thanks for the info on the Laps and what engine was used where. Thats probably the biggest help.
May require more like that as the season goes on and the chart evolves.
