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Qualifying engine

Posted: 15 Mar 2010, 19:15
by mep
With Ferrari changing both engines before the race I wonder If the will use one of their engines just for qualifying. They could take higher risks with this engine because it will have lower mileage over the year.
Is this allowed by the rules?

Re: Qualifying engine

Posted: 15 Mar 2010, 19:56
by dedge
The rule says you can use up to 8 different engines before receive a penalty on the starting grid.
So Ferrari will probably use these engines for the Friday and Saturday mornings Pratices of low-stress circuits. Nothing allarming (if they know the root cause of the failure!)

Re: Qualifying engine

Posted: 15 Mar 2010, 20:30
by ESPImperium
Interesting concept there. Could this be a way a way arround the 8 engine rule and non-quali engine rule???

Introduce a single engine that is for quali performances, whitch has posibly another 50hp over the other 7 in each drivers cycle. The thing is that Ferarri would have to be damned sure that either engine at each weekend for either driver wouldnt blow up. As all you are allowed is 2 engines per driver per weekend now. If a driver changes his engine a third time each weekend for a new one he gets a 10 place drop.

Interesting theory.

Re: Qualifying engine

Posted: 15 Mar 2010, 21:01
by Pandamasque
Great idea. In 2010 you can win a race in qualifying if the car has decent pace and is able to finish the race.

Re: Qualifying engine

Posted: 15 Mar 2010, 21:10
by WhiteBlue
ESPImperium wrote:Introduce a single engine that is for quali performances, whitch has posibly another 50hp over the other 7 in each drivers cycle.
And how would you gain 50 hp out of an homologated engine?

Ferrari have probably encountered a heat problem due to running their oil very thin and high temps in Bahrain which they couldn't test elsewhere.

Re: Qualifying engine

Posted: 15 Mar 2010, 21:14
by ESPImperium
WhiteBlue wrote:
ESPImperium wrote:Introduce a single engine that is for quali performances, whitch has posibly another 50hp over the other 7 in each drivers cycle.
And how would you gain 50 hp out of an homologated engine?

Ferrari have probably encountered a heat problem due to running their oil very thin and high temps in Bahrain which they couldn't test elsewhere.
I see what youre saying. I was thinking out loud. But id say its stupid to rule it out.

Re: Qualifying engine

Posted: 15 Mar 2010, 21:23
by mep
Don't stick to much to Ferrari, every team could possible do so.
This year qualifing is more important than ever before. When you start from the front row you can more or less cruise your race engines during the race. On the same time your qualifing engine gets only very few laps and so it's unlikely to fail. It could be at least a reliability issue.

Re: Qualifying engine

Posted: 15 Mar 2010, 21:32
by rjsa
The rule says an engine removed from the car during parc ferme (after the begining of Qual) cannot be used either in Qual or Race again. Just free practices. Or In the last race.

Re: Qualifying engine

Posted: 15 Mar 2010, 21:43
by ESPImperium
That clears that subject up straight off.

Re: Qualifying engine

Posted: 21 Mar 2010, 07:18
by Paul Kirk
I understand that after qualifying the cars go to park firme and cannot be worked on from then to the start of the race therefore no engine change. (or anything else, for that matter).
PK.

Re: Qualifying engine

Posted: 21 Mar 2010, 14:57
by manchild
I don't think so.

They can't just say "engine is not working well" we're replace it. FIA officials certainty check telemetry data as a confirmation for problems. If that wasn't the case, all teams would have replaced their engines.

Re: Qualifying engine

Posted: 21 Mar 2010, 15:11
by Paul
Problem is you can't swap engines twice during one weekend without a penalty, so you would have to use the differently tuned or otherwise modified "qualifying" engine in practice or not practice at all, which pretty much defeats the purpose.