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Post Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:24 pm

It seems the euro crisis has a beneficial side effect for F1 fans. It has been reported that Valencia is looking to reduce the fee paid to Bernie because the local government can no longer afford to support the race.

Hopefully that will trigger Bernie to put it out of its misery.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula ... 442297.stm
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Post Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:54 pm

If they could replace it with another race, then i'm all for it, but a boring race is better than no race for me.
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Post Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:02 pm

Just drop the GP entirely. I don't see a need to replace it with anything. There are too many GP's anyways, and eventually I believe some races need to alternate with each other.
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Post Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:08 pm

Good news, they will most likely take it elsewhere seeing it's the European GP. Any speculation?
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Post Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:15 am

doink wrote:Good news, they will most likely take it elsewhere seeing it's the European GP. Any speculation?

Given the rumors about spa alternating with france...

Spa spa spa spa spa spa spa!!!!!!
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Post Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:26 am

That is the best news that I had all day ...
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Post Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:27 am

Hallelujah! There is a God!
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Post Sun Jan 08, 2012 12:43 pm

beelsebob wrote:
doink wrote:Good news, they will most likely take it elsewhere seeing it's the European GP. Any speculation?

Given the rumors about spa alternating with france...

Spa spa spa spa spa spa spa!!!!!!


+1 :D
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Post Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:54 pm

Valencia will eventually alternate as the Spanish GP with Circuit de Cataluna in Barcelona.

Its all in the masterplan of Bernie. If this GP fails this year, and if Bahrain is on and not on by Boycott, one of theese GPs should be replaced by Turkey. Id give the Bahrain slot to Turkey, the reasoning for this is to give the teams another two 3 day tests mid season, whitch would not only help all teams, but also help Pirelli as it would mean that they would get more data on new colpounds.

If they can get 2 tracks in a hot climate it would be a massive help. Id recon it would help the slower teams alot more than the larger ones. Infact, id allow them to test with two cars. How id define a small team is by any team that has scored 50 points or less in the last 2 seasons.
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Post Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:54 pm

Valencia will eventually alternate as the Spanish GP with Circuit de Cataluna in Barcelona.

Its all in the masterplan of Bernie. If this GP fails this year, and if Bahrain is on and not on by Boycott, one of theese GPs should be replaced by Turkey. Id give the Bahrain slot to Turkey, the reasoning for this is to give the teams another two 3 day tests mid season, whitch would not only help all teams, but also help Pirelli as it would mean that they would get more data on new colpounds.

If they can get 2 tracks in a hot climate it would be a massive help. Id recon it would help the slower teams alot more than the larger ones. Infact, id allow them to test with two cars. How id define a small team is by any team that has scored 50 points or less in the last 2 seasons.
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Post Sun Jan 08, 2012 1:56 pm

ESPImperium wrote:Valencia will eventually alternate as the Spanish GP with Circuit de Cataluna in Barcelona.

That would be nice – (half) kill two birds with one stone – Circuit de Catalunya sucks as an F1 track.
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Post Sun Jan 08, 2012 2:09 pm

raymondu999 wrote:Hallelujah! There is a God!

:lol: Man, I hate that race track. Good news! :mrgreen:
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Post Sun Jan 08, 2012 3:24 pm

The track id like to see a Spanish GP at is Motorland Aragon. That back straight would be one f-off engine killer, and there aint any engine killer tracks on the card any longer.

As for Cataluna, that track is to be updated and modrenised in the next 2 years with a new turn 1 and a new corner leading from the back straight, not to mention the re-location on the last two (pre 2008 layout) corners for a more sweeping, almost oval type corner leading from Europcar to the start straight. Think of the corner that leads on to the back straight at China, and you get the idea.

French GP in 2013 as Belgum and France will alternate starting with this year in Spa (even years) then Paul Ricard in 2013 (Odd years). Paul Ricard will probably use a shorter layout.

The French are (to be) building a new track, they just have to try and decide when and where.

Even in Germany, there is pressure to restore the old Hockenhiem layout to current standards. It would mean a new first and second chichane, however the old third chichane would go down to where the Mercedes Benz stadium is and then rejoin the current layout there. It would be a 6.9 to 7.1km track and would probably break many of the current V8s. Also there is a need for a high speed track for the LMS guys as well, as outside Le Sarthe and Spa theres no other track that they can get to 230mph.

Its all in Bernies masterplan to get as much from as many tracks as he can. What he is wanting seemingly is 8 GP in Austral-Asia/Russia (Melbourne/Sepang/China/India/Abu Dhabi/Bahrain/Suzuka/Korea/Sochi/Singapore[Korea & Suzuka alternate]) 6 to 8 GP in Euro/Africa (Silverstone/Monza/Monaco/Hungary/Spa/France/Spain/Germany[France/Spa, Spain and Germany alternationg tracks]) with 6 GP in the America/S.Americas (Montreal/Austin/New York/Mexico City/Argentina/Btrazil and 1 other track as well)

Seemingly Bernie is wanting somewhere in the region of 35 to 40 F1 spec track competing for the contract for each race. He is also seemingly pushing for a increase of maximum GP from the FIA from 20 to 22 to 24 idealy.
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Post Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:39 pm

This has nothing to do with the Euro really. Many circuits are struggling because the numbers don't add up.
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Post Tue Jan 10, 2012 9:42 pm

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns23835.html

Actually it is now Barcelona and not Valencia that makes most noises about dropping the GP.
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