Maldonado sponsorship for Williams

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Post Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:00 pm

Echo wrote:
bhallg2k wrote:It's possible the redacted information could be an identifier for whoever was intended to receive this, and that individual could be the source of the leak.

And as Williams is a publicly traded company, much of this information is available to anyone who wants to find it....




No, Williams is a LTD a limited company and this means they aren´t public.
LTD shares are sold to family and friends and not public. So if you are a LTD you don´t need to post financial info except from tax collectors etc.

EDIT: some extra spaces so you can see what I wrote

they had an IPO. They are now publicly traded. You can go buy stock ijn Williams Grand Prix Engineering
“To be able to actually make something is awfully nice”
Bruce McLaren on building his first McLaren racecars, 1970

“I've got to be careful what I say, but possibly to probably Juan would have had a bigger go”
Sir Frank Williams after the 2003 Canadian GP, where Ralf hesitated to pass brother M. Schumacher
Pierce89
 
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Post Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:05 pm

Tomba wrote:It is one thing keeping this thread open, but please guys stay on topic, politics has no place on this website!


Thank you.

I have known many Venezualan's, they are quite fine with their country good side and bad side. People like to talk when they live 3000 miles away. They should go and LIVE in those countries for a few years before making these comments.
"I was blessed with the ability to understand how cars move," he explains. "You know how in 'The Matrix,' he can see the matrix? When I'm driving, I see the lines."
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Post Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:09 pm

n smikle wrote:
Tomba wrote:It is one thing keeping this thread open, but please guys stay on topic, politics has no place on this website!


Thank you.

I have known many Venezualan's, they are quite fine with their country good side and bad side. People like to talk when they live 3000 miles away. They should go and LIVE in those countries for a few years before making these comments.

Maybe this is true, but I currently know more than one Venezuelan that left for their lives, and would kill Chavez with their own hands if given the chance.
“To be able to actually make something is awfully nice”
Bruce McLaren on building his first McLaren racecars, 1970

“I've got to be careful what I say, but possibly to probably Juan would have had a bigger go”
Sir Frank Williams after the 2003 Canadian GP, where Ralf hesitated to pass brother M. Schumacher
Pierce89
 
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Post Sat Feb 11, 2012 1:30 pm

Play nice. No one truly knows the hearts of others.



(Damn, what is it with me and cheesy-ass sentimentality lately?)
bhallg2k
 
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Post Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:27 pm

To my mind, making yourself dependent on 50 MUSD from a caracter such as Chavez is nothing less than a sell-out.

WB, where are you when you are needed?
"Bernoulli is a nine-letter name"
xpensive
 
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Post Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:47 pm

Lord. The last thing this conversation needs is to have its subject matter painted in stark black and white when reality is most often varying shades of gray.

(Just teasin' ya, WB. Weigh in.)
bhallg2k
 
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Post Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:28 pm

I think this is way off topic, can not we just close the thread.
People talk about Venzuela is being bad, next thing you know somebody say USA is bad etc.

Haters gonna HATE but let the teams do whatever they want to get their money from.
I mean McLaren and Ferrari gets oil from Exxon and Shell and they have caused a lot of damages.
Rich teams should [u][u]only[/u][/u] be allowed to win
Echo
 
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Post Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:29 pm

xpensive wrote:This is Hugo Chavez;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3Kzbo7tNLg


This is George Bush;




It's so funny to listen someone from USA talking about moral and dictators and all that ---.

You spend [i don't know how many] billions in your army and weapons, but you have people that cannot pay for medical services and die. Where in countries that you say are governed by dictators, they're FREE.

You have Guantanamo.
You think you're the police of the world.
You invade countries just because you tought (or invented a story) that they were making nuclear weapons (that you have).
You supported dictators in the past. Argentina is an example.
agip
 
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Post Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:33 pm

It was bound to happen sooner or later.
bhallg2k
 
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Post Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:27 pm

What is wrong with PDVSA sponsering williams? The money is clean folks.
"I was blessed with the ability to understand how cars move," he explains. "You know how in 'The Matrix,' he can see the matrix? When I'm driving, I see the lines."
n smikle
 
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Post Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:54 pm

n smikle wrote:What is wrong with PDVSA sponsering williams? The money is clean folks.


Hello?!

It's an oil company!

If you work for PDVSA, you must support Chavez, or you won't work for PDVSA.
Tozza Mazza
 
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Location: UK

Post Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:10 pm

Is this really that much different to Santander sponsoring Mclaren and then Ferrari on the proviso that Alonso drives there? I mean PDVSA do have their logos prominently displayed on the car. There are many deals done in this fashion.
Mysticf1
 
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Post Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:29 pm

Trouble is PDVSA are government owned, I think thats iffy if a government company starts wasting money on F1 Sponsorship.
mrtk56
 
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Post Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:39 pm

How about a team ownership then? Bahrain owns a full 50% of McLaren, I believe - now there's a bit of a dilemma for their fans.
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Post Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:30 am

Reposted the Williams F1 invoice

viewtopic.php?p=307528#p307528
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