gato azul wrote:No it's not. He hired him to provide race winning designs, and that's what he did, so why would you want to fire him?
Gato, I didnt call for Newey to be fired.
I was linking the similarities in Red Bull and Mercedes initial years, and how Red Bull actually went backwards in year 4 with no heads rolling so to speak.
The same posters(shall go unamed) have asked for a blood letting at the team, and I'm using the Red Bull comparison to show that sackings don't mean anything and guarantee even less.
And paint the Torro Rosso situation how you like, but I can imagine the unhappy people from Red Bull at Torro Rosso winning was Newey and second Mateschitz.
gato azul wrote:It will not have help his (Haugs) position, that BMW just took them to the cleaners in DTM this year as well.
Mercedes led the standings for the entire season until the last race. How do you equate this to being "taken to the cleaners"?
No you have ask Marcus if he would call for Neweys head, after Toro Rosso won a race, why RBR did not.
Why would you ask for the head of the guy, who got his job done? I could understand if you would ask for Horners head.
You are free to think, and imagine whatever you like, that does not make it a fact/reality.
So why try to bully your opinion onto everybody else.
Maybe you are right, but it"s legit to ask why would Newey be unhappy when one of his creations wins a race - could be worse, same goes for Mateschitz, I'm sure he will see the upside first. Why have two teams if you only be happy if one wins. From a marketing/brand exposure point, this win against the odds was probably better in terms of exposure then, a Coulhard win in an RBR car.
If Toro Rosso winning against RBR would be such a drama, what you think will happen at Mercedes when customers McLaren & Force India upstage the works team, showing that at least the engine is up to the task.
How does this made the guy, who sold "the let's buy Brawn GP" idea to the board look? Must have been as painful to see the customer teams "kick ass" then it supposedly was for Mateschitz and Newey to see STR win. Don"t you think?
As for the DTM result, depends on what your metrics is, and I seem to remember from our last conversation about the topic, that you prefer the team&manufacturer standings. And in the manufacturer standing Mercedes did not lead until the last race, and in fact finished last at the end of the year. Maybe you prefer your " get handed their ass to them" expression, but it does not take away from the fact that Mercedes finished dead last in the standings.
But I'm not surprised that you prefer to change your metrics now.
Anyway, Haug will have to answer for this, just comes with his job, he has a say in the driver lineup and will have to face up to the fact, that he may made some questionable ( some would say dumb) decisions, when it comes to the DTM cockpits.