he has access to data - AGAIN

[manchild]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/56071

Mosley warns GPDA over safety debate

By Jonathan Noble Tuesday, December 19th 2006, 14:05 GMT

FIA president Max Mosley has warned the Grand Prix Drivers' Association (GPDA) against any further attempts to get involved in circuit safety.

With the GPDA having made it clear in recent weeks that they are concerned about Barcelona and Valencia, and having clashed with the FIA earlier this year over Monza, Mosley is adamant that the drivers should back off.

In his exclusive column in this month's issue of F1 Racing, Mosley claims that track safety is now so complicated that only the FIA's appointed technical experts are able to judge the situation correctly.

"Safety has become far too technical for anyone but the specialists," wrote Mosley. "For example, a GPDA director once told me that he would be safer on wide slicks because the cars stop quicker.

"I said that even I could prove on one sheet of paper that slicks were more dangerous - the greater the grip, the worse the accident. 'But would I understand your calculation?' he asked.

"Yet, today, things are even more complex. No driver would want to redesign the electronics on his car, so why try to overrule our safety experts."

Mosley has still expressed some irritation at the scenario that emerged after the Italian Grand Prix when the GPDA issued a statement criticising track safety, and the FIA responded by claiming that drivers should not be involved in regulatory matters.

"Feathers were ruffled," said Mosley. "One driver said they wouldn't be intimidated, another started talking about boycotting races. Not the most intelligent of responses, you may think, to a gentle warning.

"We obviously cannot have two bodies telling circuits what is required. That would result in total confusion. The fact that the GPDA release muddled calculated impact speed with maximum permissible impact speed reinforces this.

"We will always listen to drivers, but the decisions must be ours. And if we have to lose a race or two or a few licences to make a point, we will. It will be better for the sport in the long run."

As usual... everyone in f1 is stupid and incompetent but him regardless on fact that every decision he made since the beginning of his FIA presidency proved to be bad, dysfunctional and with counter-effect.

[Tom]

Wikipedia told me:

Max Rufus Mosley (born 1940, London, England) is currently serving his fourth term as president of the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile.

Mosley is the second son of the British fascist leader Sir Oswald Mosley and Diana Mitford. He attended Christ Church, Oxford, graduating with a degree in physics in 1961. During his time at Oxford he was Secretary of the Oxford Union. He studied law at Gray's Inn in London and qualified as a barrister in 1964. He raced in club events in the UK during 1966 and 1967 followed by Formula Two for the London Racing Team and with Frank Williams's Formula Two team in 1968. He retired from driving in 1969 and went into racing car production as one of the founders of March. He met with some success in Formula One, March finishing third in the Constructors' Championship in 1970 and 1971, with Ronnie Peterson second in the drivers' World Championship in 1971 and great success in the profitable business of selling Formula Two and other types of customer cars.

In the early 1970s he became involved with FOCA, the Formula One Constructors Association, a union of teams created to defend the teams' rights and maintain their collective control of the sport. At the end of 1977 Mosley officially withdrew from constructing and became legal advisor to FOCA. He was later elected as president of the FISA (Fédération Internationale du Sport Automobile, a committee of the FIA. A later restructuring of the FIA led to the demise of FISA and Mosley was elected president of the FIA.

At the time Bernie Ecclestone was the president of FOCA and Jean Marie Balestre president of FISA. The two clashed repeatedly over various regulation and financial issues, fighting for control of the sport. Mosley helped resolve this debate by drawing up the Concorde Agreement, giving FISA control of the rules and FOCA control of promotion and television rights.

Shortly thereafter Mosley disappeared entirely from Formula One for three years, but returned in 1986 to become president of the FISA Manufacturers' Commission and establish the Simtek Research construction team. He sold his share of Simtek in 1991 when he was elected president of the FISA, deposing Jean Marie Balestre by 43 votes to 29. He resigned a year later, stating that he would rather be elected on his own merits than the mistakes of his predecessor; the FISA immediately re-elected him for a four-year term. In 1993 he was elected president of the FIA replacing Jean Marie Balestre. The FISA was then merged into the FIA as its sporting arm. He was elected to his second term as president of the FIA in October 1997, his third in 2001 and fourth in 2005.

In June 2004 Mosley announced that he would step down from his position in October of that year. However, in July 2004 he rescinded his decision after the FIA Senate called for him to stay on. His term expires in October 2009 although speculation remains that he will step down before that.

Mosley and Bernie Ecclestone retain almost complete authority over Formula One racing; amongst other events, the FIA currently regulates the Formula One World Championship, the World Rally Championship, and the GT Championship.

Mosley for a time was interested in becoming a Conservative MP but like his father switched his allegiance to the Labour Party after meeting its then leader, John Smith, in 1994.

Rufus, hehe. A few interesting and important points:

Mosley is a Barrister, a lawyer, he has been trained how to argue, how to make himself seem right and sew doubt in the mind of those who oppose him. Not bad things but consider this, if someone knows he is wrong that doesn't mean he won't win the argument. Mosley has been wrong a few times and known it, yet he has managed to turn it round so he still wins.

Mosley was a racing driver, apparently a pretty unsucessful one, yet he is trying to tell drivers, who have been racing for decades and understand how a car drives and crashes that the don't understand what is safe and what isn't, yet he can look at a sheet of paper and tell them exactly how it all works.

In 1977 he drew up the concorde agreement, the same one he is still struggling to pull together and control 30 years later.

After establishing the joke of the paddock Simtek team and quitting before it folded he beat unpopular (yet efficient) Balestre to become president of the FIA and FISA, then merged the two together.

Old FOCA pal Bernie gets commercial rights to F1, then tries hard to add a little spice to F1 by discreetly contradicting Mad Max's descisions.


Biased I know, but he's boring me so lets get rid of him.

[Tom]

Hi-Res fans speak out:
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What more can I say?

[DaveKillens]

When for any reason, an official of any standing decides to stop listening to the drivers on any safety issue, I have great concern.
Jackie Stewart made it a personal crusade to further safety, and the difference between safety when he started driving and the present is enormous. It's the drivers who should always be allowed to voice their concerns, it's their own personal safety uppermost on their minds. For the track organizers and offcials, it is a lot more complicated. Usually they are the ones asked to spend money in the interests of safety. And yes, sometimes they balk. Who wants to spend a few million improving run off areas, or installing fuel cell bladders? It doesn't come out of the driver's pockets, and that money spent doesn't improve the life or situation of the person who has to put out the money.
But safety always has to have an ear, and should never be silenced because of some political agenda.

Shame on you Max, especially when the logo "FIA" is supposed to be synonymous with "safety"

[Ciro Pabón]

Simple: if you can't explain the equations to a newbie, you don't understand the equations OR the newbie is a lawyer... (it's just another lame joke, everybody in my family, even my mom, is a lawyer, except me). Mr. Mosley must be a lawyer extraordinaire to understand what racing technicians and drivers can't.

What I've said is that tracks have to live (and improve as the cars improve) only with ticket money. I guess FIA is tired of sharing TV money with everybody and his dog to include tracks in the pie. We get what we pay. I guess this explains my constant complains about why FIA don't divulge the information on track modelling and track safety to the humble road designers around the world .

Manufacturers worry about safety knowledge "trickling down" from racing to cars. But there is nobody I know worried about explaining to road designers the lessons learned in track construction. This seems ridiculous to me: we don't see people killing themselves on the same brands or models of cars, while we can witness how the people kill themselves on the same spots on the road. Well, it is only a million or more people dead every year, no big problem. Sigh...

[Tom]

I think the figure is up to 19 people dieing in accidents in my county alone this year. Saddly it's not due to roads or cars but mainly people driving stupidly. There is no way to hammer home to these idiots that they are not race/rally drivers and that their cars will not save them in a crash. I was trying to explaine to some half-wit that if he crashed at 50mph he was still likely to die...His reply? Hammond crashed at 280!!!!!

Maybe the only way to show how dangerous these things are is if the pros start getting hurt, pray it never comes to that.