The TWG and the OWG were both set up in the framework of the FIA. In both groups the teams were playing the major role and the FIA did preside or provide consultants.Ogami musashi wrote:I think this is not true.
There's a significant change there. Prior to that, the TWG of the FIA issued regulations, teams discussed it and everyone had to agree.
Now FIA issue goals, teams make the rules, and FIA agrees or not.
This is a major change i think.
There's always far more than what it seems, imho all of this takes place in the struggle between FIA and teams which is far from resolved.
Teams want more money, but on the technical side, they want more freedom and be sure F1 stays on top of the motorsport (at least technically and performance wise).
The FIA wants spectacle to ensure revenues so that it can still run the F1, and to this they don't mind slowing down cars or going to a spec series.
Till now the FIA imposed dramatic rules, teams reacted to that, and usually a compromise was found.
Now it seems the FIA has changed its mind and prefer to set goals and let teams do whatever they want within those limits.
So in contrary to you, i think we have something new there, something that can change the future of F1.
Remember, since a lot of years, there's a conflict between teams and FIA over technical regulations, and since 2005 the conflict increased.
The fact that the Overtaking Working Group ,which is not an FIA group, was accepted by the FIA is also to me a sign that they decided to go for a mutual design of regulations rather than a raw cut.
There you find that it is mainly composed from the technical directors of the teams and makes majority decisions. we can agree on that. The OWG is just a subgroup that established itself to do research work for the TWG. I don't believe it was meant to be permanent. So we can see that more as a project based on team resources. I agree with the members as you have descibed them. One could say that the TWG is more codified but the OWG also is working for the objectives of the FIA. At least we can say that it was commissioned to satisfy a FIA initiative.1. Changes to the Technical Regulations will be proposed by the Technical Working Group (TWG) consisting of one senior technical representative from each team and chaired by a representative of the
3. Decisions in the TWG and SWG will be taken by a simple majority vote. The FIA representative will not vote unless the teams’ representatives are equally divided, in which case he will exercise a casting vote.
The bottom line is simple - we have moved to patch up our differences. I am happy that the FIA has taken the initiative to allow the teams to write the regulations. They will be able to control their expenditure. What Max put in the letter is correct - it's a little cranky that it takes 1,000 people to put two cars on the grid.
I instantly thought of FIF1 - their mirrors have the wing things integrated yes? Surely this is greater than 0.012m2 in plan view? Where does the mirror start and bodywork stop?Other than the rear view mirrors, <b>each with a maximum area in plan view of 12000mm²</b>, no bodywork situated more than 330mm behind the front wheel centre line and more than 330mm forward of the rear wheel centre line, which is more than 600mm above the reference plane, may be more than 300mm from the centre line of the car.
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